So would I, but at least he's not a complete rollover like so many others.

See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Nacchio

I suspect the large orgs are such pushovers because of Mr. Nacchio's
treatment...

Kurt

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>Ashdown, 46, assented just once, on his lawyer's advice, to a 2010 FBI 
> >>request backed by a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance 
> >>Court.
>
> IOW, if there's any sort of a warrant attached to the request, he's going to 
> cough up info (or be advised by his legal counsel to cough up info) just like 
> anyone else.
>
> I'd like to hear about some organization willing to stand up against flimsy 
> (but "valid") warrants from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
>
>
>
>
>
> ASB
> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
> Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the 
> SMB market…
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>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>This is why I am down on using the Cloud in it's current form and
>> > >> function.
>> >
>> > Your data is no safer on-premise because...
>> >
>> > -- No one encrypts 100% of the data leaving and entering their facilities
>> > -- The telcos are also in that group of organizations you mentioned, and
>> > they provide all inbound/outbound connectivity
>> > -- The on-premise apps from the aforementioned vendors may have all sorts
>> > of backdoors
>> >
>> >
>> > I think that folks are seriously underestimating the clout of any business
>> > (or even a team of businesses) to push back successfully on the NSA in
>> > matters that ostensibly relate to "national security"
>> >
>> > The people who have the real power (we, the people), have thus far failed
>> > to exercise it, and will shortly find themselves (er.. like *now*), in the
>> > place where they are totally beholden to the government, because they have
>> > allowed the government to get to the place where it sets its own agenda.
>>
>> Sometimes, if you're small enough, you can resist successfully:
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/09/xmission-isp-customers-privacy-nsa
>>
>>
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