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 - WJR


On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> *>>This is why I am down on using the Cloud in it's current form and
> function. *
>
> Your data is no safer on-premise because...
>
> -- No one encrypts 100% of the data leaving and entering their facilities
> -- The telcos are also in that group of organizations you mentioned, and
> they provide all inbound/outbound connectivity
> -- The on-premise apps from the aforementioned vendors may have all sorts
> of backdoors
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>
> I think that folks are seriously underestimating the clout of any business
> (or even a team of businesses) to push back successfully on the NSA in
> matters that ostensibly relate to "national security"
>
> The people who have the real power (we, the people), have thus far failed
> to exercise it, and will shortly find themselves (er.. like *now*), in the
> place where they are totally beholden to the government, because they have
> allowed the government to get to the place where it sets its own agenda.
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> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> This is why I am down on using the Cloud in it's current form and
>> function.  Too many people (GOV, other companies, people with deep pockets)
>> can get access to whatever they want.  At least if your data is
>> housed under your physical control then it makes it to some degree harder
>> to get to and some of the methods to get to it would open the doors to
>> lawsuits.  I don't see the companies like Microsoft, Amazon, IBM, etc.
>> pushing back on the GOV hard enough nor are they pushing their reps in DC
>> to get the crook in Congress...uh members of Congress to stop this BS.
>> They only pushed for legal protection from giving them the access/data in
>> secret.
>>
>> Jon
>>
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>> From: [email protected]
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>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Uhhh...
>> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 15:31:15 +0000
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>>
>>  I aint, this stuff has been going on for years… you think your
>> communications are private but honestly, they aren’t.
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>> Z
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>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Maglinger, Paul
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 11, 2013 6:04 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] Uhhh...
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>> You’re surprised?
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>> *From:* [email protected] [
>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Rod Trent
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 11, 2013 4:26 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] Uhhh...
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>>
>> Wow…just, wow.
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>> New information on Microsoft’s involvement in PRISM
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>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data
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