On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>This is why I am down on using the Cloud in it's current form and
> >> function.
>
> Your data is no safer on-premise because...
>
> -- No one encrypts 100% of the data leaving and entering their facilities
> -- The telcos are also in that group of organizations you mentioned, and
> they provide all inbound/outbound connectivity
> -- The on-premise apps from the aforementioned vendors may have all sorts
> of backdoors
>
>
> I think that folks are seriously underestimating the clout of any business
> (or even a team of businesses) to push back successfully on the NSA in
> matters that ostensibly relate to "national security"
>
> The people who have the real power (we, the people), have thus far failed
> to exercise it, and will shortly find themselves (er.. like *now*), in the
> place where they are totally beholden to the government, because they have
> allowed the government to get to the place where it sets its own agenda.

Sometimes, if you're small enough, you can resist successfully:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/09/xmission-isp-customers-privacy-nsa


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