That's what I was getting at. :) DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? Operational maturity. I don't pitch it to people that don't do automated deployment. But if, for example, you can stand up a new web server in 10 minutes, copy the data to it in another 5, and be fully restored in 20 - and have Orchestrator do the entire thing - it doesn't make much sense, IMHO, to be taking full backups. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Damien Solodow Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:10 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? I think a lot of it depends on the VMs and the environment. If you have a lot of snowflake servers, it's probably much easier to restore the VM than to try to rebuild it. If you're using something like Chef, Puppet or DSC to build/manage your servers than you're likely better off just backing up the data and rebuilding. So it comes down to how tightly managed is your environment. :) DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:05 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? +1 VERY hard sell though. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:56 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? Seems to me like a lot of storage and cycles for something that might have very little value if you have the ability to simply redeploy the app and restore the data. Thanks, Brian Desmond [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pierre-Marie Camilleri Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:37 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? Why? Is there anything wrong in backing up whole VMs? Thanks Pierre From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond Sent: 08 August 2013 04:04 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? Why are you backing up whole VMs versus just protecting specific data? Thanks, Brian Desmond [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pierre-Marie Camilleri Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 3:25 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] Veeam or Altaro? Hi all Is anyone using Veeam or Altaro for performing backups and restores of VMs? Would appreciate any feedback, good and bad regarding these products. Thanks Pierre
