My last engagement using Zerto involved servers and an environment considerably more complex than file or web servers. The solution of backing up direct to a vdk that can be spun up in minutes is great for an enterprise where time is of the essence. The aforementioned customer is a State court system in an area where total destruction of the data enter is a very real possibility. Law enforcement in that state needs the system online as quickly as possible especially in the event of a disaster of that magnitude. Is having your entire environment back online and accessible within an hour (the contracted SLA) important enough to spend the cycles and storage costs? For some orgs it is.
On Aug 9, 2013, at 17:51, "James Hill" <[email protected]> wrote: > It makes sense when there is multiple server failures, or indeed, all servers. > > When your entire data centre is under flood water and all you have is the > data on tapes you’ll wish you had backups of the VM’s. We had the software > to do backups of the VM’s but due to budget and storage constraints we were > only backing up the data. > > The restore of the entire environment took weeks. If we had the VM’s it > would have been magnitudes quicker to restore. > > James. > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith > Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 4:29 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? > > Operational maturity. > > I don’t pitch it to people that don’t do automated deployment. But if, for > example, you can stand up a new web server in 10 minutes, copy the data to it > in another 5, and be fully restored in 20 – and have Orchestrator do the > entire thing – it doesn’t make much sense, IMHO, to be taking full backups. > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Damien Solodow > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? > > I think a lot of it depends on the VMs and the environment. If you have a lot > of snowflake servers, it’s probably much easier to restore the VM than to try > to rebuild it. > If you’re using something like Chef, Puppet or DSC to build/manage your > servers than you’re likely better off just backing up the data and rebuilding. > > So it comes down to how tightly managed is your environment. J > > DAMIEN SOLODOW > Systems Engineer > 317.447.6033 (office) > 317.447.6014 (fax) > HARRISON COLLEGE > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? > > +1 > > VERY hard sell though. > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Brian Desmond > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? > > Seems to me like a lot of storage and cycles for something that might have > very little value if you have the ability to simply redeploy the app and > restore the data. > > Thanks, > Brian Desmond > [email protected] > > w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Pierre-Marie Camilleri > Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? > > Why? Is there anything wrong in backing up whole VMs? > > Thanks > Pierre > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Brian Desmond > Sent: 08 August 2013 04:04 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? > > Why are you backing up whole VMs versus just protecting specific data? > > Thanks, > Brian Desmond > [email protected] > > w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Pierre-Marie Camilleri > Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 3:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NTSysADM] Veeam or Altaro? > > Hi all > > Is anyone using Veeam or Altaro for performing backups and restores of VMs? > Would appreciate any feedback, good and bad regarding these products. > > Thanks > Pierre >
