Versioning is available depending on the software in use and how much drive 
space on one wants to buy.

Yes, it's really intended for DR; Veeam, Alfaro and Zerto are all in the same 
space. <checks subject line>. Yep, still on-topic.


On Aug 9, 2013, at 19:35, "Ken Schaefer" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hmm – this sounds like RAID (and thus DR) rather than backup? Or do you get 
> versioning at the remote host as well?
>  
> Cheers
> Ken
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
> Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 11:54 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro?
>  
> After the initial seeding Veeam et al (my experience is with a product called 
> Zerto) are writing to a vdk at the destination. The piece running on the host 
> is hooked into the file system. File writes (includes deletion) are mirrored 
> to the remote vdk. There's nothing to restore. Think of it as RAID 1 for 
> servers with a manual failover. The solution does require control over DNS 
> and/or BGP to handle the address change.
> There are some other details but that's the 10,000 foot view.
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:20, "Ken Schaefer" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Haven’t you for more data to restore, which increases the restore time?
>  
> That said, if you’re not using the “offsite storage” option, was does this 
> give you over Windows Server backup?
>  
> Cheers
> Ken
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
> Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 10:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro?
>  
> All use of resources is done with the idea that it is a trade-off. In this 
> case there is, as Brian noted, lots of cycles and storage to store full 
> images ala the subject line products. In this case the payoff in resource 
> usage is the ability to spin that vm up on a moment's notice without a 
> potentially lengthy restore process. The advantage bought by spending the 
> resources is time.
> 
> On Aug 8, 2013, at 12:59, "Brian Desmond" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Seems to me like a lot of storage and cycles for something that might have 
> very little value if you have the ability to simply redeploy the app and 
> restore the data.
>  
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> [email protected]
>  
> w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Pierre-Marie Camilleri
> Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:37 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro?
>  
> Why? Is there anything wrong in backing up whole VMs?
>  
> Thanks
> Pierre
>  
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
> Sent: 08 August 2013 04:04
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro?
>  
> Why are you backing up whole VMs versus just protecting specific data?
>  
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> [email protected]
>  
> w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Pierre-Marie Camilleri
> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 3:25 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [NTSysADM] Veeam or Altaro?
>  
> Hi all
>  
> Is anyone using Veeam or Altaro for performing backups and restores  of VMs? 
> Would appreciate any feedback, good and bad regarding these products.
>  
> Thanks
> Pierre
>  

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