It makes sense when there is multiple server failures, or indeed, all servers.
When your entire data centre is under flood water and all you have is the data on tapes you'll wish you had backups of the VM's. We had the software to do backups of the VM's but due to budget and storage constraints we were only backing up the data. The restore of the entire environment took weeks. If we had the VM's it would have been magnitudes quicker to restore. James. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 4:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? Operational maturity. I don't pitch it to people that don't do automated deployment. But if, for example, you can stand up a new web server in 10 minutes, copy the data to it in another 5, and be fully restored in 20 - and have Orchestrator do the entire thing - it doesn't make much sense, IMHO, to be taking full backups. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Damien Solodow Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:10 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? I think a lot of it depends on the VMs and the environment. If you have a lot of snowflake servers, it's probably much easier to restore the VM than to try to rebuild it. If you're using something like Chef, Puppet or DSC to build/manage your servers than you're likely better off just backing up the data and rebuilding. So it comes down to how tightly managed is your environment. :) DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:05 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? +1 VERY hard sell though. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:56 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? Seems to me like a lot of storage and cycles for something that might have very little value if you have the ability to simply redeploy the app and restore the data. Thanks, Brian Desmond [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pierre-Marie Camilleri Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:37 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? Why? Is there anything wrong in backing up whole VMs? Thanks Pierre From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond Sent: 08 August 2013 04:04 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Veeam or Altaro? Why are you backing up whole VMs versus just protecting specific data? Thanks, Brian Desmond [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pierre-Marie Camilleri Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 3:25 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] Veeam or Altaro? Hi all Is anyone using Veeam or Altaro for performing backups and restores of VMs? Would appreciate any feedback, good and bad regarding these products. Thanks Pierre
