I was thinking this after you mentioned DFSR.
There already is a local backup running to a backup server on tape with no offsite protection. This is a new solution to probably replace that and also have a copy of all the data in another location. Thus the main office can backup to the remote site and the remote office can backup to the main site. Art DeKneef Avanti Computers Mesa, AZ 480-649-4430 Office 480-529-4430 Mobile From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:59 PM To: NT Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Backing up between main office and remote site Here's a quick and dirty i use for remote servers; DFSR takes care of the Fileshares on its own; For the server backup - 1. Windows system back up to external drive (this is because I only have 1 server per remote site) 2. Script then copies system state backups from external to DIFFERENT DFSR share on its own schedule 3. Replicated backup comes back to HQ So now you have data replicated in 2 physical locations, plus a third copy on whatever backup system you are using in house. Not bad for near free solution (and Yes I do work for a lot of non-profits ) _____ From: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Backing up between main office and remote site Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 15:07:35 -0700 I'll look into Avamar. I forgot about DFSR. I need to see exactly what they have there in order to proceed. Thanks. Art DeKneef Avanti Computers Mesa, AZ 480-649-4430 Office 480-529-4430 Mobile From: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] [ <mailto:[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 2:15 PM To: NT Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Backing up between main office and remote site As a starting point, you can use DFSR (since its included in windows) to get your data from one location to another. Case in point, I have an account with 6 locations 3 Africa, 2 LatAm, 1 US Using dfsr, the remote servers replicate back to HQ , then I only have to run backups from one server as opposed to 6 remote ones. Obviously you can tweak your solution, but its a starting point & you can get real creative since you have fiber at the two locations. Unfortunately for me, all the remote locations have 512k sat links and 2meg dsl's so it kind of limits my creativity. _____ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 15:54:57 -0500 From: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Backing up between main office and remote site We use Avamar here for backup and replicate the backup data across our WAN. It works well, particularly given the modest bandwidth we've got. It's not a low cost solution though. There's going to be a tradeoff between how smart the backup compression/deduplication is (Avamar's is very clever) and how much bandwidth costs. If you've got fiber, and the data change rate isn't huge, you should have a bunch of options. _____ Looks like you definitely have some additional information gathering before you can start identifying suitable solutions. Obviously the budget will be a big factor in narrowing down the options. With what you've provided it looks like you may want to focus on a single solution that can address both Physical and Virtual environments, provide application aware support for SQL/Exchange, and possibly include remote agent-based media servers to provide local de-dupe/compression to reduce impact to the MAN/WAN links. It's been awhile since I've been involved with a backup/data protection design project, but I do believe some of the following products may be worth looking at. Disclaimer, I've been in a larger enterprise environment for quite some time so some of these products may not be suitable for smaller environments: Microsoft DPM Vmware VDP CommVault EMC Avamar/Data Domain Veeam NetVault (Dell) As well as several cloud-based solutions from various sources. It may be worth looking into more DR oriented solutions (Zerto, Atlantis, etc) for the Virtual environment (if there's a focus on moving from physical to virtual). - Sean On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Art DeKneef < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote: I am asking for feedback from those that backup between multiple sites. What were the good things and what would you do different? First time I've had to look at this in a very long time. Talked with a potential new client looking to backup up between the two offices and possibly cloud backup. Current data size is estimated at 17 TBs. A disaster recovery type of thing. Besides have the backup local another copy is off-site. Main office has several Windows Server 2008 physical servers along with 15-20 virtual servers. They are running VM Ware (unknown version). Included in the mix is an Exchange Server (probably 2010), couple SQL Servers (unknown version), file and print and AD. The remote office has a few servers. Each site is on a fiber network but speed is unknown at this time. He is checking. Their previous IT guy just quit so they asked for a proposal to go in and document the network and implementing a remote backup solution. Right now we're focusing on this backup solution but I'm sure it will change as we get further into our discussions. I could use a couple of enterprise NAS devices or put in a couple of Server 2012 R2 servers as a storage and possibly turn on de-dup to reduce data transfer size. Thanks for the help. Art DeKneef Avanti Computers Mesa, AZ 480-649-4430 Office 480-529-4430 Mobile -- Thanks, Joe Matuscak | Director of Technology Rohrer Corporation | Office: 330-335-1541 717 Seville Road | Wadsworth, Ohio 44281 <http://www.rohrer.com> www.rohrer.com | A Better Package
