John, I can't follow this list like I used to...maybe this was suggested. A few years back I performed a DR test. I took a backup of one of our domain controllers restored it to a old PC on a single desktop switch. The dt switch never touched the real LAN. Then I deployed a workstation in the test domain. Then restored our exchange server and then upgraded it. I was a live copy of our win2000 active directory and a backup of the email server. That was an acid test. I pushed REALLY HARD to get the time to do this and got it. This was really before VM's. This should be much easier if you can get enough of a machine to run the various servers simultaneously, as VM's. Man, I need to do this again... --Devin
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:17 AM, John Aldrich <[email protected]>wrote: > Let me ask you this... how would you set it up so that you don't run the > risk of messing up your "real" domain? I'm guessing set up a small LAN and > keep it disconnected? > > > > From: James Rankin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 12:15 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) > > Training ain't all about money. You can learn most everything you need to > know about GPOs from a small lab which could be set up on a couple of old > PCs, coupled with some online docs. I know you also said you were low on > spare time, but when things are quiet I usually tinker with some test > stuff, > which is how I'm trying to learn my XenApp 6.5 skills at the moment. > On 1 August 2011 17:08, John Aldrich <[email protected]> wrote: > Agreed. Not ENTIRELY the community, at least. I admit, I am frustrated and > overloaded here. That being said, is it REALLY too much to ask that we NOT > continue flogging a particular dead horse? I know I need more training. I > have no money for said training, and it's extremely frustrating when people > insist on posting "that's elementary. You should just go get more > training." > That sort of reply is NOT helpful. > > > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 12:03 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) > > John, are you starting to notice a pattern here? > > You have a problem. Someone helps you, probably not as well as you'd like, > or in the manner you like, and offers some unsolicited comment about the > way > you ask for help, or your reputation for accepting help, etc. > You rant. > Someone explains things. > You calm down. > > This has been a pretty common cycle, and the frequency with which it > repeats > should be telling that the fault is not on the community. > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:54 AM, John Aldrich < > [email protected]> > wrote: > Thank you, Andrew, for your reasoned words. I am extremely frustrated and > overloaded with work right now, and when people insist on saying "pay for > your own training" when I *specifically* requested that we cease flogging > that particular deceased equine, I lash out. > > I would like to apologize to the list in general. However, my point > remains: > I have no money, whatsoever, for training. I am doing good to pay my bills > as it is. Thank you for understanding. > > Should conditions change such that I can afford to pay my bills, eat AND > keep a roof over my head as well as pay for training, I will do so. Please > let's not continue with "sometimes you just have to pay for your own > training" for the time being. Please. > > This has been a VERY hectic Monday and it's not even half over yet. Sorry > for any hard feelings. I have tried to take to heart the need to try to > find > the answers on my own. Obviously some folks didn't notice that I had not > had > much luck searching, but I did try. Thank you. > > > > From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:41 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) > > Biting the hands that feed you is always bad policy. > > If you insist on taking that approach, you might consider doing so off-line > so you don't destroy what little sympathy appears to remain for you on this > list. > > Unless, of course, your real goal is just to annoy and create confusion, in > which case, carry on. > > ASB > http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM, John Aldrich < > [email protected]> > wrote: > Apparently you didn't read my initial post. I DID Google. I found a page > that applied to Windows 2000, but supposedly said it applied to 2003 as > well. Guess what. It didn't. I posted on here and CONTINUED to search. I > finally found another page that refers to a different KB article that > explains that it's likely a corrupt local GPO. So, yes, I did do "due > diligence." <sarcasm> Sorry if I didn't do enough for you or do it fast > enough! </sarcasm> > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:56 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) > > That does not mean that the list should then provide that training to > you for free. I will not speak in broad generalizations, but, in > regards to your most recent emergency, you could have found out most of > the information you solicited from the list on the internet for free. > There is an expectation that you will put some good faith effort into > solving your own problems before coming to the list. > > There are some great, intelligent, experienced folks on this list, and > they really try to help. The least we can all do when coming for > assistance is to try and do some basic troubleshooting and research on > our own, so as not to waste other people's time and annoy them. This > cannot turn into a newbie support list, or all those aforementioned > folks are going to leave. Please stop abusing this list so that it can > remain the valuable resource it is. > > Bill Mayo > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:26 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) > > <RANT> > Guys, I DO understand where you're coming from. Really. But do you not > recall my diatribe last week about not having any money to pay for > training? > I wasn't speaking JUST about my employer, I was speaking about myself > too. I really don't have the money for training. I am living paycheck to > paycheck and STILL coming up short every month, so I really don't want > to hear about "pay for training yourself!" And trust me, I'm not living > high on the hog. > There's no champagne and caviar or expensive cars, etc. If you really > want me to get training, give me the money and I'll gladly go get > training. > Really, just tell me where to find the money and I'll do it. > > Thanks! > </RANT> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:05 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Error message in logs > > +10,000,000 > > I think the last time I had an employer pay for my training was in, uh, > 1995 or so? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Webster [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:02 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Error message in logs > > Sometimes YOU have to invest YOUR own money in YOUR own training. Pays > off in the LONG term. > > Just my $0.02US worth of advice. > > > Carl Webster > Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > > Subject: RE: Error message in logs > > > > Ok, I take it back. There are some GPOs, but they are in the nature of > > > password policy. I didn't realize those were "GPOs." (Yes, I realize > > I'm woefully undereducated, but I have neither the time nor the money > > to do anything about it at this point, so let's skip that whole > > diatribe, shall > > we???) > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > -- > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into > the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' 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