Vulnerable to what though?  As if your gonna get your phone back anyhow?

On 4/1/08, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Some technical background:
>
> CDMA = Popular term for the mobile phone standard Verizon and Sprint use
> GSM = Popular term for the mobile phone standard AT&T and most other
> carriers use
> ESN = Electronic Serial Number.  Unique hardware ID for a CDMA phone/device.
> IMEI = International Mobile Equipment Identity.  Unique hardware ID
> for a GSM phone/device.
> SIM = Subscriber Identity Module.  GSM phones have them.  They have
> their own unique IDs.
>
>   SIMs identify you to the network.  Your phone number and service are
> associated with your SIM, not the phone.  Your phone book is on the
> SIM, too.  SIMs can be swapped between GSM phones at will.  With CDMA,
> your account is associated with the ESN of the phone.  Changing
> devices needs the carrier to intervene.
>
>   Some GSM phones are sold "locked" to a particular carrier/SIM.  That
> means the phone's firmware is programmed to refuse to work if it
> doesn't like the network/SIM it gets.
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't understand it, either.  But, they suggest that if a phone is
> stolen,
> >  they can turn off the phone from anywhere, whereas, with a SIM card, it
> >  can't be done.
>
>   Verizon can turn off a Verizon phone from anywhere on the Verizon
> network, because they own everything.
>
>   If you report your GSM phone stolen to your carrier, they can flag
> the IMEI as such.  Even if the thief buys a new SIM and puts it in
> your stolen phone, they'll still see the stolen phone on their
> network.  They can turn it off, or track it down.
>
>   The complication arises when you're in an area that's serviced by a
> carrier that isn't on good terms with your carrier's home
> jurisdiction.  They don't have any incentive to cooperate.
>
>   If CDMA takes off world-wide, then you'll get the same situation.
> Scenario: Your Verizon phone is stolen.  The thief takes it to the
> disreputable carrier in China or Korea or whatever, and says their
> brother-in-law gave it to them, and now they're up and running with
> your phone.
>
>   If Sprint and Verizon weren't sharing CDMA infrastructure in the US,
> it would be happening here today.
>
>   So if you only travel in the US, GSM is as secure as CDMA.  If you
> go overseas with your international CDMA phone, you're just as
> vulnerable.
>
> -- Ben
>
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