I think if it is a written policy you should not log in to the computers. The 
computers are not the property of the users but they are also not your property 
so you need to follow policy. And to know when a computer is going to crash, I 
dont know about that one. You are either trying to hide something or you did 
something that was going to cause the computer to crash. I dont think we got 
the whole story here.




----- Original Message ----
From: Sean Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 7:56:08 PM
Subject: Re: General question - Logging onto a user's computer


I'm also curious as to how you knew the PC was about to crash. Our indication 
of an individual PC crashing is when the user calls to report it. We've got 
some 1200+ PCs to manage though. 
 
I'm kind of on the fence on the whole policy issue though. We have the same 
policy stating admins are not to remotely administer any "users" PC without 
their prior knowledge. The policy is there for confidentiallity purposes (user 
may be working on something we're not supposed to see). However, preventing 
potential loss of data should be greeted with thanks, not an a$$ chewing. 
 
- Sean

 
On 6/5/08, Troy Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Steve if you can see crashes before they occur remotely you need to be making 
more money.
 
Perhaps Qwest will hire you, we have had some outages on our circuit this 
quarter and it has been a big PITA.
 
Seriously though, not knowing the entire situation and what is going on, this 
sounds like an education issue for the boss and the users. Does the boss want 
to except the loss of productivity, if so, you have to let it go (or find 
another place to work).  Most cases we aren't management and policy setters for 
privacy type concerns and so if you cant follow what is documented before you, 
find a place where it isn't an issue (from someone who has left because of bad 
management policies)
 
BTW   Why are they working on stuff all day that can disappear with one crash?  
Please tell me they save intermittently
 
-troy   
 
 
From:Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: General question - Logging onto a user's computer
  
I just got reamed for preventing a crash. It irked me, so let me know what you 
think, or what your policy is. 
Management simply said "It is not acceptable to log into someone else's 
computer without their consent."  Period. 
 
If you see a situation where a crash is about to  occur, do you just watch 
because you are trying to identify who is actually using that workstation at 
that moment and try to contact them, or do you remote in, displaying a "Netmgr 
x has remotely connected to your pc" alert box, and resolve the issue before 
they crash and lose a day's work?


      
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