Everyone is asking how I forecast the crash. Simple. I was on the phone
to a tech support about a memory leak issue, and that machine was
leaking, using more and  more memory by the minute.  It was one of
three. One of those three did lock up and I was trying to save the other
two form doing the same. 

 

The security issue is a legitimate concern, and we do try to get consent
from the user before connecting, but sometimes we just cannot tell who
is using a common machine and does not answer the phone. In that case, I
normally remote to see who is logged in.  It is not normally a problem,
but this time it was. 

 

Obviously, I was wrong, but I hate to just sit and watch things die.

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 19:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: General question - Logging onto a user's computer

 

I'm also curious as to how you knew the PC was about to crash. Our
indication of an individual PC crashing is when the user calls to report
it. We've got some 1200+ PCs to manage though. 

 

I'm kind of on the fence on the whole policy issue though. We have the
same policy stating admins are not to remotely administer any "users" PC
without their prior knowledge. The policy is there for confidentiallity
purposes (user may be working on something we're not supposed to see).
However, preventing potential loss of data should be greeted with
thanks, not an a$$ chewing. 

 

- Sean

 

On 6/5/08, Troy Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Steve if you can see crashes before they occur remotely you need to be
making more money.

 

Perhaps Qwest will hire you, we have had some outages on our circuit
this quarter and it has been a big PITA.

 

Seriously though, not knowing the entire situation and what is going on,
this sounds like an education issue for the boss and the users. Does the
boss want to except the loss of productivity, if so, you have to let it
go (or find another place to work).  Most cases we aren't management and
policy setters for privacy type concerns and so if you cant follow what
is documented before you, find a place where it isn't an issue (from
someone who has left because of bad management policies)

 

BTW   Why are they working on stuff all day that can disappear with one
crash?  Please tell me they save intermittently

 

-troy  

 

 

 

From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: General question - Logging onto a user's computer

 

I just got reamed for preventing a crash. It irked me, so let me know
what you think, or what your policy is.

 

Management simply said "It is not acceptable to log into someone else's
computer without their consent."  Period. 

 

If you see a situation where a crash is about to  occur, do you just
watch because you are trying to identify who is actually using that
workstation at that moment and try to contact them, or do you remote in,
displaying a "Netmgr x has remotely connected to your pc" alert box, and
resolve the issue before they crash and lose a day's work?

 

 

 

 

 

 


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