"That is why I build the system on the webpage, and then use the email
cart function to send it to my rep to get the real quote price. "

 

But their e-quotes don't always transfer to the 'real quote' system the
reps use.  Especially the N-Series.  They have to rebuild all those
quotes every time.  That's how they get hacked apart and wrong.

 

Rant 2:  They always forget to add my hippie-tree-hugging-carbon offsets
to the orders!

 

Sam

 

 

 

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Rant: Incorrect quotes from vendors

 

That is why I build the system on the webpage, and then use the email
cart function to send it to my rep to get the real quote price.  Now, I
will say I've never had the problem Chris has had getting server quotes
right, but that is because I had been using the same server rep for
nearly 3 years before he finally got bumped into a department that I
can't work with.  I had the added bonus of him recommending his
replacement to me.

 

Now we have experienced problems with general/desktop rep, and usually
have to break them in a little bit before they get used to us.  I only
had one of those reps "not get it."  However I used pressure from my
server guy and the management team to get transferred to the rep we
currently use who is pretty reliable about getting us the quotes we
need.

 

I have said, and always will say that it is always a matter of *WHO* you
know when dealing with vendors.

 

Back when I was straight Compaq (before the merger), I sourced that
stuff from Insight because the rep I worked with there I had an over 5
year relationship with and always knew exactly what I needed sometimes,
even when I didn't.  When I came to work here, they purchased direct
from TechData and I could *NEVER* get the server configs I wanted
without paying through the nose and assembling them myself.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Rant: Incorrect quotes from vendors

 

OMG I hear ya!  I just ordered a desktop, and it took 4 quotes to get it
right.  I would email 3 quote fixes, I would get a quote back with only
1 line item fixed.   The worst was when my Rep recommended I upgrade the
management card to a Vpro card, I said ok, and then when I got the
quote, and it still had the cheep ASF card.  Come on!

 

Dell has a great online e-quote system, but for some dumb reason they
have to manually recreate/rebuild a new quote if you want it in the
other html quote format - which is what you need if you want any sort of
discount taken off.

 

A** backwards.

 

Good rant.  Good timingJ

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Rant: Incorrect quotes from vendors

 

<RANT>

Sorry just wanted to vent. 

For some reason it seems that none of the vendors we deal with can get a
quote correct. Not once, never. We primarily deal with Dell, both US and
Canada. We also use HP and have multiple lease vendors. None of them
ever get a  quote right the first time. For example if I send them
something like this:

Please give me a quote for (2)  PowerEdge 1950 servers with the
following: 

 

(2) Dual Core 3.0GHz Xeon Processors
8GB RAM
(2) 146GB Hard drives (RAID 1)
DRAC 5/I card
(2) Emulex LPe11002-E HBA adapters (A1663181)
Gold Support
NetIQ AppManager
NetIQ AppManager Maintenance
PowerPath licenses
Windows 2003 Server Enterprise 

I will get back a quote that might have 4G RAM instead of 8. Or no DRAC
card, or have the wrong quantity of HBA cards. Every time it happens we
bring it to the attention of our account executive and they swear they
will resolve the issue. They don't. Then 2 months later the account
executive is replaced or has moved on and a new one comes on board, or
the person that generates the quotes leaves the company. I would just
love to have a simple quote done correctly the first time. 

</RANT>

Chris Bodnar

Sr. Windows Systems Engineer

Swiftwater, PA

X3522

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