Xen plus OpenQRM is beginning to sound very interesting to me...

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 20:59, Kelsey, John <[email protected]> wrote:

>  VMWare did the exact same thing to us.  We were out of support when we
> wanted to go to VSphere 4.  Had to pay the previous year's support before we
> could upgrade, essentially paying for an entire year of support that we
> never used or needed.  Highway robbery!
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> *******************************
> *John C. Kelsey
> *DuBois Regional Medical Center
> (:  814.375.3073
> *:   [email protected]
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>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2010 20:30
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Rediculous Support Clause
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>  And the ones that tax the system should pay more.  Maybe we should make
> this discussion political J
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> What product are we talking about btw? I know VMWare tried to pull this
> same thing on us.
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> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:28 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Rediculous Support Clause
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> And for every customer that doesn't need/use support, there are 5 that tax
> the system.
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> It tends to balance out.
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> -ASB: http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker
> Sent from my Verizon Smartphone
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> *From: *Jeff Johnson <[email protected]>
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> *Date: *Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:24:06 -0800
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> *To: *NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
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> *Subject: *RE: Rediculous Support Clause
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> Unfortunately that may be true, but they have a great product and it is
> VERY stable.  We did not renew our support with them after we had it for 3
> years, because we never needed it.  Three years later when we wanted to
> upgrade to a current version, we got hit with 3 years of past support plus
> the current year and one additional year, even though we never needed a darn
> thing.  Again, it is time to renew, but we have no plans on using the
> support for another 3+ years.  Ugh!
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> *Jeff Johnson*
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> *Systems Administrator*
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> 714-773-2600 Office
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> 714-773-6351 Fax
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> *From:* Gary Whitten [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:14 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Rediculous Support Clause
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> Sounds like 'We have you where we want you so we can dictate terms'.  I
> don't understand why you think it wouldn't be legal as nothing says they
> have to reinstate you at all.  Playing Devil's Advocate here, it's highly
> likely that if you're in a position to need to be reinstated, it's because
> something has gone wrong and is likely to be expensive for them.
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> *From:* Jeff Johnson [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:59 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: Rediculous Support Clause
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> Here is a clause in an agreement that I have never understood nor agreed
> with.  I am curious if it is even legal???
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> In the event You desire support to be reinstated following expiration, You
> agree: 1) to pay a reinstatement fee   equal to the current annual support
> fee and any unpaid support fees from the date of expiration to the date of
> reinstatement; *and* 2) to pay for at least one additional year of support
> services from the date of reinstatement.
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> *Jeff Johnson*
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> *Systems Administrator*
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> 714-773-2600 Office
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> 714-773-6351 Fax
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