" But when Microsoft wants to, say, create a new API for something, they
just do, and abandon the old one, and everyone else has to play catchup"

Hmm, that's odd.. I guess I haven't seen those multitude of Technet
articles that list API's/methods  as "deprecated" yet still function for
some time prior to their retirement so that app vendors have time to
transition.

I didn't realize they just turned them off one day, and that
compatibility with existing code base mattered to them.

Thanks.

-sc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: WTF? Fake AV
> 
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:27 AM, John Aldrich
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If the Microsoft security model is so good, why did it take them so
> > long to make it harder to run as a local admin by default?
> 
>   It's not the Windows security model, but rather, Microsoft's apathy
and lack
> of clue which has led to so many security problems on 'doze.
> 
>   NT supported everything you needed to secure a system in 1993.
> Microsoft didn't think security was important so they didn't bother.
> 
>   Microsoft apologists blame this on the software vendors, saying
Microsoft
> couldn't do that because software vendors don't corporate.
> But when Microsoft wants to, say, create a new API for something, they
just
> do, and abandon the old one, and everyone else has to play catchup.
When
> hardware doesn't work with Vista, the same Microsoft apologists blame
the
> hardware vendors for not publishing updated drivers.  You can't have
it both
> ways.  Microsoft *could* have made security a priority.  They didn't.
> 
>   Several major Microsoft products (Office, Visual Studio) have has
trouble
> with admin rights.  I remember parts of Office 2000 didn't work right
without
> special permissions.  When challenged that the Win
> 2000 logo (which O2K had) said that was a problem, Microsoft's
response was
> that it didn't count.  A similar thing happened with Visual Studio
2008.  It's
> good to be the king -- you get to ignore your own laws.
> 
>   I've read that most people within Microsoft run with admin rights on
their
> local PC.
> 
>   Microsoft's come a long way, but I still think there are large
factions within
> Microsoft that don't get security.  You end up with the security
people
> fighting having to policing their own app people, or whatever.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
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