Simply because they wanted to get there foot in the door in more places than anyone else. Simple security (no security) means everything just works. No admin, no hassle. Now we come to a different age and business and home users are more mature with their pc's. A more secure model needs to be in place. Simple economics and marketing beating out security.
-----Original Message----- From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV While it's a nice debate, there's really no way to prove which is better. However, let me ask you this, Steven: If the Microsoft security model is so good, why did it take them so long to make it harder to run as a local admin by default? -----Original Message----- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV I'm not sure how you draw the conclusion that it probably wouldn't be as bad. I'd also suggest that there's a significant anti-MS sentiment that makes it a specific target. Along with the fact that I suspect that gunning for the #1 platform makes extrapolating OS share to virus infection target rate a non-linear exercise. -sc > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:13 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > I started to reply to that remark too, then I had a little debate with myself > whether I could make a good point... given that Macs have had a non-admin > user default for some time, while Microsoft did nothing to encourage users > to not be admins until Vista. > > Certainly if the tables were turned and Macs had 92% of the worldwide > market share, the infection rate of Macs would be much higher than we see > today. But it probably wouldn't be nearly as bad as Windows overall is today. > > Carl > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:00 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > > While I am not a huge fan of MACS, their security model is obviously > > much better than Windows > > I'd suggest that's an ill-drawn conclusion. > > -sc > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:19 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > > > Are there any reports out there that show Windows 7 running with UAC > > that its minimizes the infections of spyware. > > While I am not a huge fan of MACS, their security model is obviously > > much better than Windows. I am hoping that with Win 7 and their > > requirement to run as admin similar to the Unix model that it will > > help minimize this. Even with users not in admin group in Windows XP, > > Vista I have seen malware get right on and hose a machine. > > Of course with Windows 7 if you make someone a local admin and disable > > the UAC you are back to the XP model of security. > > > > Of all our support requests I would say 40% at least are malware > > related probably higher.. > > > > I see this as an OS security issue not a 3rd party program issue. > > > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tammy [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:11 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > > > Everyone seems to be having these issues of the rogues slipping through. > > Not just any one AV. > > 70 thousand or so new ones released daily so it is difficult for > > anyone to keep up. > > More explained here by Eric Howes > > > > http://www.sunbeltsecuritynews.com/ > > > > Regards, > > > > Tammy Stewart > > Malware Removal Specialist > > Sunbelt Software > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
