Me? An admin. The thousands of users I created for my orgs? Non. Home versions of XP? There was a reason for that. But the default has nothing to do with the validity of the underlying model.
-sc > -----Original Message----- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:37 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > Yes, but "out of the box" were you a local admin or a "user"? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:24 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > Funny.. .I've been able to run as non-admin on NT as a platform for 15+ years > now. > > If you want to talk application behavior, I'll concede that many folks, MS > included, needed to get their act together, which they have. But the OP was > comparing to Win7, so what the situation was 5 years ago is immaterial. > > > -sc > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:14 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: WTF? Fake AV > > > > You don't think the unix security model helps at all? I mean, surely > > not allowing Joe User to run as "root" is going to help protect the > > system, after all, isn't that why Microsoft *finally* stopped making > > the default user the local admin? :-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:08 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: WTF? Fake AV > > > > +1 > > > > UAC may be a pain in the arse but it *works*. A lot of the malware I > > see these days limits itself to the context of the user's account. The > > executables are dropped somewhere under %APPDATA% and the registry > > changes are written to HKCU. > > > > The only thing that keeps Macs relatively malware-free is the very > > small market share. > > > > On 4/28/2010 10:00 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote: > > >> While I am not a huge fan of MACS, their security model is > > >> obviously much better than Windows > > > > > > I'd suggest that's an ill-drawn conclusion. > > > > -- > > > > Phil Brutsche > > [email protected] > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
