Did you smack him around for wasting your time?
Is he a direct report, which you can delegate "suitable" projects to in the
future?



On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, everyone who responded, thanks for your assistance. considering what
> was going on with svchost trying to write to index.dat, it stunk of some
> kind of malware....so I decided to run MalwareBytes myself.....
>
> Rule #1 - end users LIE! End of discussion (even if they are engineers whom
> you would otherwise trust implicitly)
> Rule #2 - in case you decide to believe an end user when they tell you that
> they ran a complete scan of their system with the tools you recommended, see
> rule #1
>
> VIPRE Rescue had NOT been run by the end user (though I ran it myself and
> it did not find anything other than Cain, which is legit for this end user.)
>
> MalwareBytes had been run by the end user, however the database was *more
> than 140 days out of date*........so, I updated the database, ran complete
> scan, and found Trojan-Agent.gen in a couple of dll files, which you guessed
> it....removing that threat solved my problem.
>
> HEAD --> DESK
> HEAD --> DESK
> HEAD --> DESK
> HEAD --> DESK
>
> *sigh*
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Joe,
>>
>> all 42 lines have this for the command line:
>>
>> c:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe -k LocalSystemNetworkRestricted
>>
>> The very first one has a result of PATH NOT FOUND for path
>> %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp\Temporary Internet Files\Index.dat
>>
>> I'm at a loss.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Joe Tinney <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  In ProcMon, view the Properties of the process and flip to the Process
>>> tab. There is a command line field that shows the full command used to start
>>> SVCHOST. You may be able to discern which service SVCHOST was acting on
>>> behalf of to do that work just by looking
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A quick PowerShell line can help you find the service(s) that use(s) that
>>> command to launch if you need it:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> gwmi win32_service | fl Name,PathName
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jonathan [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:24 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: Win 7 IE Temp Environment variable woes "Outlook cannot
>>> create the work file"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Clearing out all temp files and folders didn't do it. I even deleted
>>> everything in %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp (which included a folder
>>> called Temporary Internet Files, which is where the setting in IE said it
>>> was pointing). I moved the folder to the correct location under IE,
>>> (%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files) and
>>> it had me log off...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So I launched ProcMon set it to log on reboot, filtered for anything
>>> containing %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp\Temporary Internet Files....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WHY the HECK does ipoint.exe feel the need to monkey with my Temporary
>>> Internet Files?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> grrrrrr.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I launched AppWiz.cpl, and it was there, plain as day - Microsoft
>>> Intelipoint 8.0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> so I uninstalled Intellipoint, rebooted, (setting ProcMon to log) and the
>>> setting reverted AGAIN.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This time Sidebar.exe is listed, then further down the line, Pandora is
>>> listed....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> grrrrrrrrrrrrr.........
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, I stopped sidebar from running....changed the IE setting....set
>>> ProcMon to log on boot....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> booted.....Pandora still writes to that location, however the setting
>>> remained as I set it in IE....but I still got the error in Word stating that
>>> it could not create the work file. "Changed" it in IE, logged off, logged
>>> on... Word launched with no issue. Removed Pandora, set Proc Mon to log,
>>> rebooted....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the setting changed, and I have 42 entries in ProcMon on bootup, all
>>> point to the undesired path, and are under svchost.exe, with the operation
>>> of createfile, and result of path not found. Trying to create files in the
>>> content.ie5 folder of the undesired path.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any more thoughts on what would be causing this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are only two user profiles on the machine, one of which was
>>> originally setup as an alternate Admin account and theoretically had not
>>> been used since it was setup.....until yesterday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It does happen for both of the existing accounts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I suspect the *possibility* of a migration related issue, but the issue
>>> did not present itself until several weeks ago, and the user started using
>>> this machine in October/November of last year. I had the user change the IE
>>> setting manually and it seemed to be fine for a while (days, a
>>> week?)....then reared its ugly head again, this time resetting itself on
>>> every reboot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've scanned with VIPRE, and found nothing, except for Cain, which they
>>> use in their normal job function (Wireless and security).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've started playing with process monitor, but can't reboot the users
>>> machine at the moment because they are backing up their system.....in
>>> preparation for a wipe. :-(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I did clean out at least one of the Temp folders, but I'll attempt to
>>> clean them all out. Curious - how would this impact the IE Temp file
>>> location?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, does this problem happen for every user profile on the machine?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you suspect a migration issue, what did the user have before the
>>> migration?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *ASB *(Professional Bio <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>)
>>> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...**
>>> *
>>> * *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In addition to what Richard suggested, try cleaning out the temp
>>> folders...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *ASB *(Professional Bio <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>)
>>> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...**
>>> *
>>> * *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any help here would be appreciated. I'm trying to avoid another engineer
>>> having to format and reinstall. I've googled and kb's until I've no other
>>> ideas...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When launching Word or Outlook (both 2010 - fresh install,
>>> albeit likely done via Easy Transfer), the user gets, "Word (or Outlook)
>>> could not create the work file. Check the temp environment."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In IE (Presently IE8, but had the same issue before removing IE9), the
>>> "current location" is listed as %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp\Temporary
>>> Internet Files\, yet when you click on "View Files" it opens the folder
>>> defined by this registry key:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell
>>> Folders : Cache
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can change the setting in IE, reboot, and all is well. I've also tried
>>> this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2027053
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I reboot again, the problem recurs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've also tried this on another user profile on the machine, and gotten
>>> the same results. It works the first time, but then changes after a reboot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm at my wits end.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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>>
>>
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