Haha, no, but I thought about it.

No, he's in an entirely different engineering group than I am.

Jonathan

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote:

> Did you smack him around for wasting your time?
> Is he a direct report, which you can delegate "suitable" projects to in the
> future?
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Well, everyone who responded, thanks for your assistance. considering what
>> was going on with svchost trying to write to index.dat, it stunk of some
>> kind of malware....so I decided to run MalwareBytes myself.....
>>
>> Rule #1 - end users LIE! End of discussion (even if they are engineers
>> whom you would otherwise trust implicitly)
>> Rule #2 - in case you decide to believe an end user when they tell you
>> that they ran a complete scan of their system with the tools you
>> recommended, see rule #1
>>
>> VIPRE Rescue had NOT been run by the end user (though I ran it myself and
>> it did not find anything other than Cain, which is legit for this end user.)
>>
>> MalwareBytes had been run by the end user, however the database was *more
>> than 140 days out of date*........so, I updated the database, ran
>> complete scan, and found Trojan-Agent.gen in a couple of dll files, which
>> you guessed it....removing that threat solved my problem.
>>
>> HEAD --> DESK
>> HEAD --> DESK
>> HEAD --> DESK
>> HEAD --> DESK
>>
>> *sigh*
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joe,
>>>
>>> all 42 lines have this for the command line:
>>>
>>> c:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe -k LocalSystemNetworkRestricted
>>>
>>> The very first one has a result of PATH NOT FOUND for path
>>> %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp\Temporary Internet Files\Index.dat
>>>
>>> I'm at a loss.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Joe Tinney <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  In ProcMon, view the Properties of the process and flip to the Process
>>>> tab. There is a command line field that shows the full command used to 
>>>> start
>>>> SVCHOST. You may be able to discern which service SVCHOST was acting on
>>>> behalf of to do that work just by looking
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A quick PowerShell line can help you find the service(s) that use(s)
>>>> that command to launch if you need it:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> gwmi win32_service | fl Name,PathName
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jonathan [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:24 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Win 7 IE Temp Environment variable woes "Outlook cannot
>>>> create the work file"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Clearing out all temp files and folders didn't do it. I even deleted
>>>> everything in %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp (which included a folder
>>>> called Temporary Internet Files, which is where the setting in IE said it
>>>> was pointing). I moved the folder to the correct location under IE,
>>>> (%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files) 
>>>> and
>>>> it had me log off...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I launched ProcMon set it to log on reboot, filtered for anything
>>>> containing %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp\Temporary Internet Files....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WHY the HECK does ipoint.exe feel the need to monkey with my Temporary
>>>> Internet Files?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> grrrrrr.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I launched AppWiz.cpl, and it was there, plain as day - Microsoft
>>>> Intelipoint 8.0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> so I uninstalled Intellipoint, rebooted, (setting ProcMon to log) and
>>>> the setting reverted AGAIN.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This time Sidebar.exe is listed, then further down the line, Pandora is
>>>> listed....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> grrrrrrrrrrrrr.........
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, I stopped sidebar from running....changed the IE setting....set
>>>> ProcMon to log on boot....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> booted.....Pandora still writes to that location, however the setting
>>>> remained as I set it in IE....but I still got the error in Word stating 
>>>> that
>>>> it could not create the work file. "Changed" it in IE, logged off, logged
>>>> on... Word launched with no issue. Removed Pandora, set Proc Mon to log,
>>>> rebooted....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the setting changed, and I have 42 entries in ProcMon on bootup, all
>>>> point to the undesired path, and are under svchost.exe, with the operation
>>>> of createfile, and result of path not found. Trying to create files in the
>>>> content.ie5 folder of the undesired path.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any more thoughts on what would be causing this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There are only two user profiles on the machine, one of which was
>>>> originally setup as an alternate Admin account and theoretically had not
>>>> been used since it was setup.....until yesterday.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It does happen for both of the existing accounts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suspect the *possibility* of a migration related issue, but the issue
>>>> did not present itself until several weeks ago, and the user started using
>>>> this machine in October/November of last year. I had the user change the IE
>>>> setting manually and it seemed to be fine for a while (days, a
>>>> week?)....then reared its ugly head again, this time resetting itself on
>>>> every reboot.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've scanned with VIPRE, and found nothing, except for Cain, which they
>>>> use in their normal job function (Wireless and security).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've started playing with process monitor, but can't reboot the users
>>>> machine at the moment because they are backing up their system.....in
>>>> preparation for a wipe. :-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did clean out at least one of the Temp folders, but I'll attempt to
>>>> clean them all out. Curious - how would this impact the IE Temp file
>>>> location?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Also, does this problem happen for every user profile on the machine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you suspect a migration issue, what did the user have before the
>>>> migration?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *ASB *(Professional Bio <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>)
>>>> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...**
>>>> *
>>>> * *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In addition to what Richard suggested, try cleaning out the temp
>>>> folders...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *ASB *(Professional Bio <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>)
>>>> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...**
>>>> *
>>>> * *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any help here would be appreciated. I'm trying to avoid another engineer
>>>> having to format and reinstall. I've googled and kb's until I've no other
>>>> ideas...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When launching Word or Outlook (both 2010 - fresh install,
>>>> albeit likely done via Easy Transfer), the user gets, "Word (or Outlook)
>>>> could not create the work file. Check the temp environment."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In IE (Presently IE8, but had the same issue before removing IE9), the
>>>> "current location" is listed as %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp\Temporary
>>>> Internet Files\, yet when you click on "View Files" it opens the folder
>>>> defined by this registry key:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell
>>>> Folders : Cache
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can change the setting in IE, reboot, and all is well. I've also tried
>>>> this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2027053
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I reboot again, the problem recurs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've also tried this on another user profile on the machine, and gotten
>>>> the same results. It works the first time, but then changes after a reboot.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm at my wits end.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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