"The WG will determine whether an IP, and/or an emulated Ethernet service is 
needed"

How about dropping the references to IP and Ethernet completely to avoid 
arguments like this?

"The WG will determine which types of service are needed"

If you really wanted to keep IP/Ethernet, you could provide these as examples

"The WG will determine which types of service are needed (for example, IP or 
Ethernet)"

Dave.

From: Stewart Bryant <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:33:53 +0100
To: Xuxiaohu <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [nvo3] NVO3 charter 1530UK 12April

On 21/04/2012 02:35, Xuxiaohu wrote:
Hi Marc,

I agree that L3 over L3 should also be considered by NVo3 besides of the L2 
over L3.

However, I think the sentence you proposed “a routed and/or bridged Ethernet 
service” is still not clear enough and hence it may be interpreted mistakenly 
as follows: the routed Ethernet service means a L2VPN service with 
control-plane based MAC learning capabilities such as EVPN or something like 
that (By the way, I remembered one prior name of the EVPN is “routed VPLS” or 
“R-VPLS” in short), while the bridged Ethernet service means a L2VPN service 
with data-plane based MAC learning capabilities, such as existing BGP or LDP 
based VPLS.

There are two problems with this

Does it mean ("routed Ethernet service" || "bridged Ethernet service") or does 
it mean ("routed service" || "bridged Ethernet service")?

There are so many flavours of Ethenet switching and transmission that we need 
to be very careful.

If we say routing meaning IP routing then we end up with issues of whether MPLS 
is in or out.

The original text ""The WG will determine whether an IP, and/or an emulated 
Ethernet service is needed" avoids this minefield.

- Stewart
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