Yes, that looks like a good way of expressing the problem

Stewart

On 21/04/2012 09:52, David Freedman wrote:
"The WG will determine whether an IP, and/or an emulated Ethernet service is needed"

How about dropping the references to IP and Ethernet completely to avoid arguments like this?

"The WG will determine which types of service are needed"

If you really wanted to keep IP/Ethernet, you could provide these as examples

"The WG will determine which types of service are needed (for example, IP or Ethernet)"

Dave.

From: Stewart Bryant <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
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Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:33:53 +0100
To: Xuxiaohu <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
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Subject: Re: [nvo3] NVO3 charter 1530UK 12April

On 21/04/2012 02:35, Xuxiaohu wrote:

Hi Marc,

I agree that L3 over L3 should also be considered by NVo3 besides of the L2 over L3.

However, I think the sentence you proposed “a routed and/or bridged Ethernet service” is still not clear enough and hence it may be interpreted mistakenly as follows: the routed Ethernet service means a L2VPN service with control-plane based MAC learning capabilities such as EVPN or something like that (By the way, I remembered one prior name of the EVPN is “routed VPLS” or “R-VPLS” in short), while the bridged Ethernet service means a L2VPN service with data-plane based MAC learning capabilities, such as existing BGP or LDP based VPLS.

There are two problems with this

Does it mean ("routed Ethernet service" || "bridged Ethernet service") or does it mean ("routed service" || "bridged Ethernet service")?

There are so many flavours of Ethenet switching and transmission that we need to be very careful.

If we say routing meaning IP routing then we end up with issues of whether MPLS is in or out.

The original text ""The WG will determine whether an IP, and/or an emulated Ethernet service is needed" avoids this minefield.

- Stewart
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