Melinda,

My original email indicated that there were other requirements drafts in the 
works and that it was premature to make draft-narten a WG draft prior to seeing 
them.

If we really, really, have to have a requirements draft selected as a WG draft 
immediately, and I have seen no reason expressed for doing this, let alone a 
compelling reason for doing this, I would propose 
draft-fang-vpn4dc-problem-statement.

It is better written, has a better understanding of the problem space, and has 
at least a passing familiarity with technologies developed in the IETF and IEEE.

Thanks,

John 

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Melinda Shore [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:36 PM
>To: John E Drake
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-narten-nvo3-overlay-
>problem-statement-02
>
>On 6/21/12 1:48 PM, John E Drake wrote:
>> JD:  Process.  Draft-narten was written by a group of people with a
>> particular perspective.  In particular, they are blissfully unaware of
>> most of the technologies developed by the IETF over the past fifteen
>> years.  (Also technologies developed by the IEEE, but I
>> digress.)
>
>Okay, *that's* the basis for an objection, not that it's too soon
>(although I am grateful to have seen a complaint that the IETF is moving
>too quickly on something - I may never see another, and I'm cherishing
>the moment).
>
>Look, if the draft is irredeemable or there's a more suitable one
>available now, say so.  My tendency is to go into these things
>recognizing that drafts are changed *substantially* between the time
>that one is adopted and the time it enters WG last call, and that's
>normal, healthy, and desirable.  If an editor is unwilling to accept a
>working group decision on something, they're fired.
>
>I just don't think "too soon" is an acceptable or even reasonable
>criterion for not adopting a document and the "too soon" argument is
>exceptionally unlikely to lead me to agree with you.  You seem to be
>suggesting that you want a draft to be close to being able to get into
>WG LC before adopting it.  Seriously - what is the problem with the
>*document* (calling the authors uninformed is not the same thing as
>saying that the document is flawed), and why is it so serious as to
>preclude adoption by the working group?
>
>Melinda

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