Carlos,

The technical objections raised in the face-to-face meeting were all about
extensibility being a concern.  This,  those concerns need to be addressed.

I would recommend listening to the recording to remind or learn what
conversation happened.

Regards,
Alia

On Jul 23, 2016 7:47 PM, "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpign...@cisco.com>
wrote:

> Alia,
>
> Just trying to understand — is there a particular reason why you pick on
> extensibility? What set of extension requirements do you have in mind?
>
> The historical evolution of data path encaps seems to indicate a
> decreasing (not increasing) number of extensions and capability to support
> them (e.g., L2TPv2 -> L2TPv3, Original GRE -> Current GRE).
>
> Thanks,
>
> — Carlos.
>
> On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Alia Atlas <akat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Thank you.   This is helpful information.
> Can you comment at all on extensibility & support for VXLAN-GPE & the
> other options?
>
> Regards,
> Alia
>
> On Jul 22, 2016 3:41 PM, "David Melman" <davi...@marvell.com> wrote:
>
>> > Though if someone knows of a vendor who plans to support vxlan-gpe on
>> their already installed vxlan supporting hardware please speak up. I
>> certainly did not check with every vendor.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a silicon vendor, Marvell have the same silicon that supports both
>> VXLAN and VXLAN-GPE.  Our customers can indeed support both on the same
>> hardware.
>>
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nvo3 [mailto:nvo3-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Jon Hudson
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2016 11:58 AM
>> *To:* Dino Farinacci
>> *Cc:* Matthew Bocci; Tom Herbert; nvo3@ietf.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvo3] Consensus call on encap proposals
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 1:38 AM, Dino Farinacci <farina...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > - VXLAN-GPE does not appear compatible with VXLAN-GPE. If a VXLAN host
>> receives a VXLAN packet for some protocol other than Ethern the payload
>> will be misinterpreted. A separate port number was required. I assume that
>> a user using VXLAN in HW must upgrade HW to use VXLAN-GPE
>>
>> Tom, one clarification. Did you really mean VXLAN-GPE is not compatible
>> with VXLAN-GPE or did you mean VXLAN?
>>
>> This is how a VXLAN-GPE encapsulator (an upgraded system) can talk to a
>> VXLAN decapsulator (an existing system) with the LISP control-plane:
>>
>> (1) The encapsulator does a lookup on a MAC address to the mapping system.
>> (2) What gets retunred is the decapsultor’s IP address and an
>> encapsulation format. In this case the encapsulation format is VXLAN.
>> (3) The VXLAN-GPE supuported encapsulator then encapsulates packets with
>> UDP port 4789.
>>
>> I am told you can do this with BGP as well by negotiating what
>> encapsulations are supported.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, most product managers are not nearly as clever as you are Dino,
>> and as far as I know Users who today have HW that supports vxlan will have
>> to buy new switches or line cards to support vxlan-gpe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Though if someone knows of a vendor who plans to support vxlan-gpe on
>> their already installed vxlan supporting hardware please speak up. I
>> certainly did not check with every vendor.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dino
>>
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