I was going to reply to this last night but got side tracked. But now I can reply to two questions at the same time.
I have just last week secured a role with a website of note. This opportunity came purely from a former colleague (a designer) who has worked for this company for several years. I really don't think anything can beat networking. If it's worth anything, I wasn't actively looking for work. But where I live in relation to work was becoming a hinderance after the company relocated. So I was on the fence so-to-speak. The only roles I even applied for were this successful one, and one from this list which I probably left too late as I didn't hear back. What I am saying, is that networking and groups like this - environments that "push" offers to the talent pool, are the best (in my case only) way of getting to the people who are thinking about, but not acting on a job hunt. I will definately use these methods first and foremost when hunting for other developers. I'll also say I find myself agreeing with Paul's comment on senior level developers. I only say this because my new employer seemed to have been looking for a month or so. I was asked to interview for the above role without sighting my resume. The interview happened on a Friday afternoon (I sent my resume in advance). An offer was made the following Monday morning. None of my referees were contacted. Obviously, I may owe someone a beer. And a former colleague on the inside is about as good a reference as you can get. However the rapid nature of the process makes me feel that it may be currently quite difficult to find experienced developers. For context, I have 8 years exp + ZCE. But there may be other factors at play in my story. I'm a lovable sort of chap. On Apr 1, 9:22 am, Jochen Daum <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I found my job here:www.companies.govt.nz, but jokes aside I have > used both this mailing list and Seek for recruitment and the results > are much better in this mailing list, not so much for quantity, but > for quality. > > I've heard good things about Sead from many angles, but my general > view of the recruitment industry is that they can only add value if > you don't actually know what you want. I have written about this > herehttp://automatem.posterous.com/they-ask-for-a-lot-in-this-job-adand > it matches IMO also with the content of "What colour is your > parachute". You get the best jobs/candidates through networking. > Having organised a tramping group for a number of years and seeing the > conversation happening there, I recommend you go tramping to find a > job or candidate. > > HTH, Jochen > > On 1 April 2011 09:12, Keri Henare <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I found my job on Seek but that was 3 years ago. We stopped using Seek once > > the effects of the recession hit because the number of good applicants went > > down and the number of unsuitable applicants skyrocketed (due to > > desperation I guess). > > > These days we use a combination of: > > * Twitter > > * NZPHPUG :) > > * Recruiters - But good recruiters like Sead. > > > Finding people is hard, but by dropping Seek we were able to filter the > > selection pool down to quality applicants. > > > Kind regards, > > Keri Henare > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Chief Technical Officer > > Pixel Fusion > > > [e] [email protected] > > [w] pixelfusion.co.nz > > [m] (+64) 021 874 552 > > [p] (+64) 09 550 3084 > > > Zend Certified Engineer > > -http://www.zend.com/en/yellow-pages#show-ClientCandidateID=ZEND013450 > > > PLEASE NOTE: I check my email 3 times per day and will respond at these > > intervals. For anything urgent please ring me. > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > On Friday, 1 April 2011 at 8:44 AM, Toni Jacka wrote: > >> It would be good to know how everyone found their current job - I have > >> asked around our office and all of our current guys found their roles on > >> Seek and would use this for looking around. If anyone has any other > >> experiences it would help to know how this went? > > >> On 31 March 2011 15:44, Paul Bennett <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > Recently advertised junior position, got 12 responses from 9 different > >> > > people. I consider this low. > > >> > That's because people are scared of you, Jochen ;) > > >> > My gut feel is that there's a skill shortage rather than a glut. This > >> > is simply based on the fact that I've heard a number of employers over > >> > the last 18 months voicing their concern that it's hard to find good > >> > developers - especially at the senior end of the spectrum and a couple > >> > that have been disappointed at the skill level of those they've hired in > >> > intermediate or junior roles. > > >> > The upshot is that if you're a good senior developer, it's still pretty > >> > easy to find work ;) > > >> > Paul > > >> > -- > >> > NZ PHP Users Group:http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug > >> > To post, send email to [email protected] > >> > To unsubscribe, send email to > >> > [email protected] > >> -- > >> NZ PHP Users Group:http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug > >> To post, send email to [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe, send email to > >> [email protected] > > > -- > > NZ PHP Users Group:http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug > > To post, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe, send email to > > [email protected] -- NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected]
