And on a tangetally related note, a friend of mine just sent me this http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/10/20/software-engineers-are-in-demand-and-github-is-how-you-find-them/ The theory is you can actually see a developers work, and github is being used as a way to find talent... Personally I have not used and are unlikely to use online services. I have used NZPHPUG on more than one occasion to find help when required, and so far no-one has let me down ;-) Cheers
David Turton | Senior Web Developer, Web Team Manatū Taonga - Ministry for Culture and Heritage ASB House, Level 4, 101 - 103 The Terrace P O Box 5364, Wellington, New Zealand Ph +64 4 471 6446 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harvey Kane Sent: Monday, 22 October 2012 10:13 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [phpug] Re: Outsourcing portals One thing I'd add is that you shouldn't try to hire offshore when you are busy. It sounds whack because the only reason you need the extra help is because you are busy. But actually it takes a lot of managing and you just don't have time to do this properly when you are flat out. The reality is that the default result, unless you do an exceptional job of managing, is project failure. I have had mixed results personally. All credit to Paul for making it work, but I reckon there are easier and less stressful ways to make money. Just my 2c. Harvey. On 22/10/2012 8:43 p.m., Paul Bennett wrote: > I've had good experiences on a couple of sites and have built up a > good stable group of trusted and skilled offshore devs over the last > few months. > > You need to put in some effort in initially as it takes time to learn > how to spec a good project, how to select good developers and then to > manage the project effectively. > You need to run a few projects through the sites and then weed out the > bad devs and cling on to the good ones. Set clear timelines and > deliverables and don't be afraid to cancel a project if the dev can't > meet the timeframes they agreed to or if the code simply isn't good > enough (or they're not sticking to the requirements). > > It's unsurprising to hear the "tried it once and it didn't work" > comments - you can apply that to almost any scenario in life but the > reality is that if you structure your work well, communicate well and > stick with it, outsourcing can be rewarding, effective and profitable. > > Regards, > Paul Bennett > MoveForward - Web Development for Design Companies > http://www.moveforward.co.nz > 06 308 9722 > 027 255 8495 > -- > NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug > To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send > email to > [email protected] -- Harvey Kane Phone: - Auckland: +64 9 950 4133 - Wanaka: +64 3 746 8133 - Mobile: +64 21 811 951 Email: [email protected] If you need to contact me urgently, please read my email policy www.ragepank.com/email/ -- NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] www.mch.govt.nz - www.teara.govt.nz - www.nzhistory.net.nz - www.goingdigital.co.nz The information contained in this email message does not necessarily reflect the views of the Ministry for Culture and Heritage and may contain information that is confidential or subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient and receive this email in error: please notify the Ministry for Culture and Heritage by return email or telephone (64 4 499 4229) and delete this email; you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE YOU PRINT THIS EMAIL -- NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected]
