John,
What a great definition of group riding dynamics. Every good team has a leader and to
the one mentioned by you I would like to add Georgio and Bram. After having read your
point of view I now know why I've enjoyed riding with both of them so much. They
"just know" when someone in the group is in trouble, no one has to yell it out. It's
like they have eyes behind their backs. And yes, that cannot be legislated.
Again, thanks for your insight,
Perry McKenna
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From: John Large
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Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [obc] Newsletter comments and group rides
I'll throw in my 2 cents worth.
Telling me that someone can legislate the "group" back into group ride is a joke.
You might as well hold politicians to their campaign promises.
It is common knowledge that a good group takes time to become one. Like a good team
in any sport. Group riding is when cycling becomes a team sport. An interesting
element in competition is when you meet the border between team sport and individual.
It crosses the border many times as a group nears the finish or is about to get
caught.
Skilled riders can put a group together in a few minutes where a group of novices
are less likely to. Group riding is actually a skill that few riders poccess.
Why do you think they say Bob Simpson or Les Humphries are great to ride with?
Because they are skilled, experienced riders who also happen to be thinking of the
group and not just themselves ( that is a bonus, not all skilled riders do). They have
learned this, and share an attitude and that can not be legislated at a club meeting.
That is why the few good group rides are really great and why a great one is a
special day to remember.
Getting dropped can be part of the experience, though not always good.
The lessons learned when getting dropped are the very ones that keep you in the
group the next time. Learning not to give up the wheel in front of you or learning
how quickly a gap opens up are critical the process.
I love a good group ride and believe there could be more.
But Manny better be riding at the front of every group if he thinks rules speak
louder than a cross wind or even the slightest hill.
If you figured out that Group"A" starts too fast, you should have figured out to
start with Group "B" the next time or to be warmed up. You can always lead a group and
see what is involved.
Life is a group ride.
No one said it was as each of us wants it every week
-jl
That is my nickles worth.
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I agree with Manny’s comment of “putting the ‘group’
back into ‘group rides’â€.
Frommy experience over the past year, "group" tends to be dropped from "group
rides". I’ve had far too many Sunday Rides quickly turn into solo rides,
often on that
first climb on Riverside Dr. On the occasion they do wait, but only then to
proceed
above what should be the speed limit for the group.
That's my $0.02.
John Twemlow
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