And let us not forget "Mile a Minute Murphy" who drafted a railway train at
60mph in the very early 1900's.  Did it on boards placed between the tracks
and ran out of puff just before he ran out of boards..........

----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Humphreys (K)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [obc] Why looking for new TT course, really?


> Hence the old adage - ' don't look a draft horse in the mouth', or
> was that a gift horse ? In any event, if drafting horse drawn traffic, I'd
> be more inclined to heed the one which advises 'never to look down the
> barrel to see if it's loaded'.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:18 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Re: [obc] Why looking for new TT course, really?
> >
> > That is very true, however what you are describing is safer and not
> > illegal. Nothing like the effect of blocking side winds as well. The
only
> > caution is if a large vehicle starts to turn or makes even a small
swerve
> > there is what is called a backswing of the vehicle which if one is to
> > close to that vehicle may result in getting bumped. Oh yes do not try
this
> > while going close to trucks that are carrying loose gravel -- ouch the
> > kick back of gravel.
> >
> > Of course, we could go back to the late 1800's and try doing time trials
> > on the bicycles of the time with the same road conditions. Given the
horse
> > and carriage was still on the road, one had to be on the watch for more
> > than uneven road surfaces. Me thinks, I wouldn't want to be drafting off
> > the back of a horse and carriage. And there was the case of the carriage
> > driver who use to carry a ball and chain with him and swing it at
cyclists
> > going by -- nice guy eh?
> >
> > Cyclemom :-)
> > >
> > > From: "Simpson, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 2002/03/25 Mon AM 08:16:38 EST
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Re: [obc] Why looking for new TT course, really?
> > >
> > > The story goes that Moscow had a velodrome that had ventilation ducts
> > which,
> > > as is usual, could blow air in two directions to be evenly
distributed.
> > > During record attempts, one side of the ducts was covered somehow so
> > that
> > > the air was blown around counterclockwise, the same way as the track
is
> > > ridden, so that the riders would have a "favourable" wind.  (Air speed
> > isn't
> > > measured when there's an oval.)  It's the same effect when you have a
> > steady
> > > stream of truck, vans, buses or friends in cars passing you along the
> > > parkway.  You don't have to draft right up behind them to get a
benefit.
> > >
> > > Bob Simpson
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 11:15 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [obc] Why looking for new TT course, really?
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, drafting is illegal but there are those who will do it whether or
> > not
> > > it is illegal -- the real question is it wise to do so?
> > >
> > > The question I used to ask my husband rather than harangue him about
> > > drafting off of trucks was, "is the life insurance paid up and is it
in
> > my
> > > name?"
> > >
> > > He doesn't do it anymore.
> > >
> > > Cyclemom
> > > >
> > > > From: Peter James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Date: 2002/03/23 Sat PM 10:52:00 EST
> > > > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [obc] Why looking for new TT course, really?
> > > >
> > > > Henry Troup wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter James wrote:
> > > > > > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:43:07 -0500
> > > > > > From: Peter James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [obc] Why looking for new TT course, really?
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Having said that, the fastest TT courses in the UK are on very
> > busy
> > > > > > roads - a steady stream of gravel trucks for an hour in the
> > evening
> > > > > > might improve our PB's!
> > > > >
> > > > > Really, Peter, it's only cool to draft Cinzano trucks :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > ------
> > > >
> > > > Well each to his own -  I just don't see too many Cinzano trucks at
> > the
> > > > jobsites I visit...
> > > >
> > > > Of course I didn't say anything about drafting - that would be
> > > > illegal.... the UK experience as I understand it is that on a busy
> > road
> > > > the air in the immediate vicinity of the traffic is actually moving
> > with
> > > > the traffic, so it's a kind of virtual drafting.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Peter James
> > > > Ottawa, Ontario
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