On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 11:19:53AM -0300, Claudio Buffara wrote:
> on 04.03.04 11:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Aqui vai o problema o problema de lógica que já foi aqui discutido, agora
> > com o enunciado exato :
> > -----------------
> > Em um teste de cinco de alternativas com uma única solução correta, as
> > alternativas eram :
> > a)Q 
> > b)I 
> > c)Z 
> > d)R 
> > e)C 
> > 
> > Qual a alternativa correta ?
> > -----------------
> > Gostaria de saber se as opiniões continuam as mesmas, em especial a opinião
> > do Nicolau. 
> 
> A minha opiniao mudou: agora eu acho que o professor que disse que a
> alternativa correta eh a (e) nao merece ser demitido por justa causa e, mais
> ainda, merece um pedido de desculpas pela minha agressividade injustificada,
> ainda que eu nunca tenha pretendido ofende-lo. Na ocasiao, eu apenas quis
> chamar a atencao das pessoas para algo que, na minha opiniao, eh um erro
> serio de logica.

É exatamente este tipo de questão que eu me recuso a discutir e sobre
o qual quanto menos falarmos, melhor. Esta lista não é para discutir
carreira docente de ninguém. O Claudio mandou para a lista uma mensagem com
uma frase acalorada, pela qual ele já pediu desculpas mais de uma vez.
Vamos encerrar o assunto, por favor.

Eu continuo aliás com a suspeita de que este professor que passou
esta questão está é rindo da nossa cara. Se o espírito for este,
eu submeto à atenção desta augusta lista esta jóia, de autoria
de James Propp, um matemático que trabalha em combinatória,
probabilidade e sistemas dinâmicos. O teste está aqui:
http://www.math.wisc.edu/~propp/srat.html

[]s, N.

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SELF-REFERENTIAL APTITUDE TEST, by Jim Propp ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

The solution to the following puzzle is unique; in some cases the 
knowledge that the solution is unique may actually give you a short-cut 
to finding the answer to a particular question, but it's possible to 
find the unique solution even without making use of the fact that the 
solution is unique.  (Thanks to Andy Latto for bringing this subtlety 
to my attention.)

I should mention that if you don't agree with me about the answer to #20, 
you will get a different solution to the puzzle than the one I had in mind.  
But I should also mention that if you don't agree with me about the answer 
to #20, you are just plain wrong.  :-)

You may now begin work.


 1. The first question whose answer is B is question
    (A) 1
    (B) 2
    (C) 3
    (D) 4
    (E) 5

 2. The only two consecutive questions with identical answers are questions
    (A) 6 and 7
    (B) 7 and 8
    (C) 8 and 9
    (D) 9 and 10
    (E) 10 and 11

 3. The number of questions with the answer E is
    (A) 0
    (B) 1
    (C) 2
    (D) 3
    (E) 4

 4. The number of questions with the answer A is
    (A) 4
    (B) 5
    (C) 6
    (D) 7
    (E) 8

 5. The answer to this question is the same as the answer to question
    (A) 1
    (B) 2
    (C) 3
    (D) 4
    (E) 5

 6. The answer to question 17 is 
    (A) C
    (B) D
    (C) E
    (D) none of the above
    (E) all of the above

 7. Alphabetically, the answer to this question and the answer to the
    following question are
    (A) 4 apart
    (B) 3 apart
    (C) 2 apart
    (D) 1 apart
    (E) the same

 8. The number of questions whose answers are vowels is
    (A) 4
    (B) 5
    (C) 6
    (D) 7
    (E) 8

 9. The next question with the same answer as this one is question
    (A) 10
    (B) 11
    (C) 12
    (D) 13
    (E) 14

10. The answer to question 16 is
    (A) D
    (B) A
    (C) E
    (D) B
    (E) C

11. The number of questions preceding this one with the answer B is
    (A) 0
    (B) 1
    (C) 2
    (D) 3
    (E) 4

12. The number of questions whose answer is a consonant is
    (A) an even number
    (B) an odd number
    (C) a perfect square
    (D) a prime
    (E) divisible by 5

13. The only odd-numbered problem with answer A is
    (A) 9
    (B) 11
    (C) 13
    (D) 15
    (E) 17

14. The number of questions with answer D is
    (A) 6
    (B) 7
    (C) 8
    (D) 9
    (E) 10

15. The answer to question 12 is
    (A) A
    (B) B
    (C) C
    (D) D
    (E) E

16. The answer to question 10 is
    (A) D
    (B) C
    (C) B
    (D) A
    (E) E

17. The answer to question 6 is
    (A) C
    (B) D
    (C) E
    (D) none of the above
    (E) all of the above

18. The number of questions with answer A equals the number of questions 
    with answer
    (A) B
    (B) C
    (C) D
    (D) E
    (E) none of the above

19. The answer to this question is:
    (A) A
    (B) B
    (C) C
    (D) D
    (E) E

20. Standardized test is to intelligence as barometer is to
    (A) temperature (only)
    (B) wind-velocity (only)
    (C) latitude (only)
    (D) longitude (only)
    (E) temperature, wind-velocity, latitude, and longitude
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