Hi Frank

All of our online lists are located on secure servers secure. Unfortunately
the information you refer to is available from a myriad of places for
marketing people. It sold on by banks and insurance companies as well as
most other corporates.

Regards

Andrew Fife
A Touch of Madness - Victorian Quaffery
021 448 2266
www.touchofmadness.co.za



2009/9/9 Knarf Boatmaker <[email protected]>

> To All,
>
> This morning I was phoned by Mr Isaacson from Observatory Armed Response.
>
> He was canvassing for his companies services, knew my present alarm company
> and wanted to know who my Armed Response did to offer me a competitive
> package.
>
> What worries me that (1) he phoned my home number (2) when I did not pick
> up timorously he phoned my cell number (3) Where did this info came from -
> has one of our community listings been leaked?
>
> A Concerned Resident,
>
> Frank Schuitemaker
>
>
>
> 2009/8/17 Peter Brooks <[email protected]>
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 14, 11:51 pm, Ian Gilfillan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Thanks for following up Rob.
>> >
>> > It sounds though like PSIRA went to the same school of admin as OAR.
>> >
>> > Perhaps they should remove OAR's valid listing from their database (the
>> > one I sent yesterday, based on the number OAR are giving out, not the
>> > one below)? If OAR aren't actually registered, then PSIRA are misleading
>> > the public by listing them as such in their database.
>> >
>> Quite. In last conversation with OAR, on Friday, they said that OAR
>> had had a case against PSIRA, which had been decided in OAR's favour.
>> I've asked for evidence of this, and details, but it really seems very
>> muddy from all sides.
>>
>> I'll give Mr Booysens a call too. There's no sign of an audit report
>> or other indication for why OAR is not registered.
>>
>> In a sensible situation, you'd expect the registering authority to
>> have information to help clients and inform the public on their web-
>> site. It's not clear why they're wanting to launch a prosecution at
>> this stage - surely it would have made more sense to issue a notice to
>> quit, seize a copy of their customer database and write to their
>> customers. Are they expecting customers of OAR to discover what's
>> going on by some sort of psychic intuition?
>>
>> As you say, the shambles seems pretty ubiquitous. My request for a
>> quote from ADT to take over the monitoring remains unanswered, so
>> maybe, if we finally discover what the situation actually is, it'll be
>> more customers for Chubb - though I'm beginning to wonder if things
>> will be any better there. It would clearly be foolish to do anything
>> until the situation is entirely clear.
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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