Hi all,

In regards to street people scratching in bins;

It is our feeling that allowing this is not a good practice. For several
reasons - some have been noted;


   - The health issue:  rotten food being taken from waste bags and left out
   in the sun - causing health issues, rats, roaches, danger to children and
   not to mention street people being poisoned by expired food - either given
   to them by residents or taken from the bin
   - The mess left behind:  is OBSID's responsibility to clean and blows
   around the suburb
   - Facilitating drug habits:   the give responsibly campaign aims to
   communicate this. If you provide a means for street people to support their
   drug habits, their addictions will no doubt be the end of them. Hence the
   reason why we urge all to give all donations (food, clothes, blankets, money
   etc.) to local charities rather. At these institutions they provide social
   workers and field workers who can council the individuals in the hopes of
   helping them off the streets. When goods are given directly to street people
   it facilitates addictions
   - Antisocial behaviour:   loitering is a by-law offence. There have also
   been incidents where residents ask the bin scratchers to leave, only to
   return to have the front of their properties soiled with litter - thus being
   intimidated
   - etc.

We find that condoning scratching in bins creates several issues. Vetus
Schola patrollers working for OBSID undergo continuous sensitivity training
in order to deal with street people in the correct way - as noted in
Rosemary's posting.

Best regards,
Ancois
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On 26 September 2011 19:11, Melanie Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think it's a bad and horrible idea to let vagrants go through your
> rubbish.
> A) They always make a mess - it's disgusting.
> B) The messing around with the rubbish and not closing the bins properly
> afterwards attracts rats, and there are enough of those around already.
>
> In addition, how can one even think of allowing it - isn't that cynic??
> If one feels sorry for them then give them food or buy them a voucher or
> whatever.
> The grocery shops can dish out their expired goods to them or something.
> On the one hand, it has been the policy here to "remove" vagrants from the
> streets - you cannot on the other hand say: "oh, it's ok for them to go
> through my rubbish".
>
> It's a terrible sign for a society to see people scrounging through
> rubbishes on a regular basis and it's even worse for people to think that's
> ok, fair game - it's only my rubbish.
> Never mind hygiene.
>
> Melanie
>
>
> On 26 September 2011 15:12, Biddy Greene <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'd just like to say that I agree with Natalie here. I'd rather they
>> 'harvested' our bins (thank you for that great new addition to my
>> vocabulary btw!) than took to stealing. Anything left out on the
>> street is, in a sense, fair game.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 26, 11:08 am, Natalie Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi Brian
>> > Do we have a policy on what to do re people harvesting the bins on bin
>> day?
>> > I saw a VS guy asking a harvestor not to do it and wondered if this is
>> our
>> > policy. We need to let VS know what we want them to do re this. My
>> position
>> > is we cannot stop people from doing it, unless thy are found to be
>> > littering. Plse advise.
>> > Thanks and regards
>> > NatalieOn Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Ancois Bester <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thanks for this positive feedback Rosemary!
>> >
>> > > Ancois
>> > > *Assistant to COO, Office Manager*
>> >
>> > > <http://goog_1464495583/> <http://goog_1464495583/>OBSID<
>> http://obsid.org.za/>:
>> > > Observatory Improvement District
>> > > 41 Station road,  Observatory
>> > > [email protected] / [email protected]
>> > > *tel*:  021 448 7090begin_of_the_skype_highlighting            021 448
>> 7090       *fax*:086 639 4005begin_of_the_skype_highlighting            086
>> 639 4005
>> > > OBSID website <http://www.obs.org.za/improvement-district/>
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>> > >   iloveobs Google group
>> > > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/iloveobs>
>> >
>> > > On 24 September 2011 19:16, Rosemary Robins <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> Saturday approx 11am a vagrant was sleeping on the paved area between
>> the
>> > >> Village Green and Station Road.  I witnessed a VS guard approach him
>> - and
>> > >> remove him. I was too far away to hear what was said but I was able
>> to
>> > >> witness the "body language" from VS: both gentle and sensitive. Thank
>> you.
>> >
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