Like I have said earlier we will give you the benefit of the doubt. Good luck for your opening and continuing in perfect harmony with the residents of Observatory. I like to see business's be successful. So hopefully the word will go round that Lion Tavern is a good place to visit.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Casper Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:28 AM To: The Observatory Neighbourhood watch Subject: [obsnw] Re: FW: "Lions Corner" Application for Liquor license It actually sickens me to think that there is residents with so little believe in us (Lion Corner). The fact that you expect people to walk out of my establishment and vomit and use your garden or flower pots as toilets is disgusting!! No one with such tendencies should be allowed in anyway. The people that fertilize your gardens are not our target market. Lion Corner is a respectable up market bar. We are not here to make trouble or be a nuisance. Our intensions are good although we are constantly compared with and stereotyped as liquor holes where scum comes together. We also have made no opening night promises. We only asked that our neighbours please accommodate us for the opening night as the turn up will probably be overwhelming. And that this will not be our normal trade. After all this will be our opening night and we are excited about it and we have put a lot of hard work into it! So with all the negative comments and disbelieve from our fellow residents and neighbours, believe it or not but we are taking you in consideration and have been from day 1. On a lighter note we have also received a lot of positive feedback from the Observatory residents who can't wait for this Purple Paradise to open! For those of you who have send us welcoming messages and told us how excited you are of our opening, this means the world to us and we are looking forward to seeing your at Lion Corner Tavern. Haha, very good point Nikki! :-) So one more day to go till the opening! See the all you happy hearted people there! ;-) Kind Regards Casper Potgieter Owner of 205 Lower Main And Co-owner of Lion Corner Tavern On Feb 23, 8:25 am, Doug Price <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi James, > > You could not have put it more precisely. > I also understand Bev's frustration with the amount of liquor licenses in the > "Obs Strip", which is very short. > My only problem is that when the trouble does come, and the pre-opening > promises are not kept, we the residents are left with the headaches. > Never see the owners of the establishments with buckets, disinfectant and > hoses in their hands cleaning the streets around their establishments, or > around the complainants residence where the defecations take place. > I am not against this Lions Corner, I say give them a chance, BUT what > happens if they mess up, as a resident how can I get rid of them, also what > happens when the place is sold the liquor license does not die but gets used > by the next owner, as we have seen happen far too many times further up the > strip. > > Doug. > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of James Cowley > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [obsnw] Re: FW: "Lions Corner" Application for Liquor > license > > Yes, "Everybody loves Raymond", sure do, he's funny and charming and often > gets his point, moral or idea across to all. > > Everyone loves an English Pub, it's a good vibe, a few drinks, meet some good > guys and gals, and off we go. > Coming into this debate is very tricky, but as noted to Doug, I would follow > up. > Henk, the OCA representative is the best suited to make a response, and will > leave it for him to do. Business pressure, and volunteer time to spend hours > of reply or motivation re liquor related matters in Obs, however takes its > toll on one, but sure he will fit a reply soon. > > Obs carries a heavy load of poor liquor establishment etiquette, legally they > can trade but gravely exceed their bounds. > > For most of you, you have no touch with the hassles, not of the pubs, clubs > or 'restaurants', but with the authorities who have to protect you and me of > noise, urinating around every corner door or wall, loud shouting whist > walking to their residences across Obs, fights, damages to cars or > properties, beer bottles dumped or smashed, will drink till they drop, but > with the authorities who are not there when you call on them, do not quite > deliver what they supposed to do, turns communities and Legal entities around > and give the liquor establishments the right of way to proceed! > Unless you are deprived of your sleep or sanity, Raymond is a fine guy, > thumbs up for him, but wait till Raymond laughs behind your house. > > So, is the above re the bad places, the crawly dingy ones, yes but no, not > quite. I refer to the nice establishments, sometimes the small neat or cozy > ones, the ones who supposedly does Observatory residents a favour by staying > open way late beyond their trading hours or takes a chance more than often - > but spills out their well inebriated patron/s to get into his/her vehicle and > drive off or becomes a victim for a robbery or cannot contain his/her bladder > or vomits into your flower pot or behind your wall or at your gate; allows a > DJ or two or a talented musician to make music which can be heard two to > three blocks away; or allows only neatly dressed patrons but who's thump of > music can be heard 250 meters away; or you neither know if the patron is well > drunk or drugged but plays ball all round; I can go on, but... > > Promises by liquor applicants are often made but poorly kept, motivations in > applications on paper are the finest but on the ground becomes flawed in > practice, once given a licence it becomes near impossible to reverse, the Law > itself seems to get reversed because the business perpetrator is considered > above the affected resident, time and time again, and this is no joke! > > An English Pub for Raymond being an American is possibly out of sorts In > South Africa. It's nice if we can run an English pub in Observatory with an > English Liquor Board, a Bobby on patrol with his baton in hand to visit her > Majesty's pub and with a stiff upper lip, check in that all is in place at > the pub and with it's patrons then popping on further down the road and see > the little o'l Tannie off to her abode at 11 pm after her nice little snort > at her lekker Local pub. > > Folks, I wish Lions Corner well but if Lion's Corner has all its ducks in a > row, well then. I however disagree to widen the footprint of liquor into the > corridors of the residential domain in Observatory, and will give it my best > attention, both for and against as "Everybody Loves Observatory ". > > Kind regards > James > > James Cowley > > 082 926 1220 > > 021 448 2824 (t&f) > > Observatory Neighborhood Watch: Chairman > > On 22 February 2012 18:54, Bev Pettit > <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I don't need to explain myself ! > We have more than enuf liquor holes in the area ! > I am already plagued by drunk idiots that walk past my place at all times of > the night. > I have also had to put up with drunk folk pee-ing AND DEFACATING on pavement > outside my place and next door. > > I'm also not interested in entering pleasant / unpleasant watering hole > debate. > It leaves me cold > > I HAVE HAD ENOUGH ! > > So you don't like me or what I say..... > > I'm crestfallen ! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<mailto:obsnw%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]m>. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. 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