Thanks guys for all the positive feedback as well. This is great!! We are looking forward to adding value to the community.
See you at Lion Corner :-) On Feb 23, 10:14 am, Rosemary Robins <[email protected]> wrote: > Casper - don't upset yourself over a very small minority - and look at all > the free publicity you have received.[?] > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Iain Watermeyer <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > I have been watching the e-mail exchanges and it saddens me that there are > > people who still have knee jerk prejudicial response to a new enterprise. I > > for one am thrilled that there is a new spot opening up for the more > > responsible minded people living in obz. > > > looking forward to visiting :) > > > Iain > > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Doug Price <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Like I have said earlier we will give you the benefit of the doubt. Good > >> luck for your opening and continuing in perfect harmony with the residents > >> of Observatory. > >> I like to see business's be successful. So hopefully the word will go > >> round that Lion Tavern is a good place to visit. > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > >> Of Casper > >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:28 AM > >> To: The Observatory Neighbourhood watch > >> Subject: [obsnw] Re: FW: "Lions Corner" Application for Liquor license > > >> It actually sickens me to think that there is residents with so little > >> believe in us (Lion Corner). > > >> The fact that you expect people to walk out of my establishment and vomit > >> and use your garden or flower pots as toilets is disgusting!! No one with > >> such tendencies should be allowed in anyway. The people that fertilize your > >> gardens are not our target market. Lion Corner is a respectable up market > >> bar. We are not here to make trouble or be a nuisance. Our intensions are > >> good although we are constantly compared with and stereotyped as liquor > >> holes where scum comes together. > > >> We also have made no opening night promises. We only asked that our > >> neighbours please accommodate us for the opening night as the turn up will > >> probably be overwhelming. And that this will not be our normal trade. After > >> all this will be our opening night and we are excited about it and we have > >> put a lot of hard work into it! So with all the negative comments and > >> disbelieve from our fellow residents and neighbours, believe it or not but > >> we are taking you in consideration and have been from day 1. > > >> On a lighter note we have also received a lot of positive feedback from > >> the Observatory residents who can't wait for this Purple Paradise to open! > >> For those of you who have send us welcoming messages and told us how > >> excited you are of our opening, this means the world to us and we are > >> looking forward to seeing your at Lion Corner Tavern. > > >> Haha, very good point Nikki! :-) > > >> So one more day to go till the opening! See the all you happy hearted > >> people there! ;-) > > >> Kind Regards > >> Casper Potgieter > >> Owner of 205 Lower Main > >> And Co-owner of Lion Corner Tavern > > >> On Feb 23, 8:25 am, Doug Price <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Hi James, > > >> > You could not have put it more precisely. > >> > I also understand Bev's frustration with the amount of liquor licenses > >> in the "Obs Strip", which is very short. > >> > My only problem is that when the trouble does come, and the pre-opening > >> promises are not kept, we the residents are left with the headaches. > >> > Never see the owners of the establishments with buckets, disinfectant > >> and hoses in their hands cleaning the streets around their establishments, > >> or around the complainants residence where the defecations take place. > >> > I am not against this Lions Corner, I say give them a chance, BUT what > >> happens if they mess up, as a resident how can I get rid of them, also what > >> happens when the place is sold the liquor license does not die but gets > >> used by the next owner, as we have seen happen far too many times further > >> up the strip. > > >> > Doug. > > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > >> > Of James Cowley > >> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:21 AM > >> > To: [email protected] > >> > Subject: Re: [obsnw] Re: FW: "Lions Corner" Application for Liquor > >> > license > > >> > Yes, "Everybody loves Raymond", sure do, he's funny and charming and > >> often gets his point, moral or idea across to all. > > >> > Everyone loves an English Pub, it's a good vibe, a few drinks, meet > >> some good guys and gals, and off we go. > >> > Coming into this debate is very tricky, but as noted to Doug, I would > >> follow up. > >> > Henk, the OCA representative is the best suited to make a response, and > >> will leave it for him to do. Business pressure, and volunteer time to > >> spend hours of reply or motivation re liquor related matters in Obs, > >> however takes its toll on one, but sure he will fit a reply soon. > > >> > Obs carries a heavy load of poor liquor establishment etiquette, > >> legally they can trade but gravely exceed their bounds. > > >> > For most of you, you have no touch with the hassles, not of the pubs, > >> clubs or 'restaurants', but with the authorities who have to protect you > >> and me of noise, urinating around every corner door or wall, loud shouting > >> whist walking to their residences across Obs, fights, damages to cars or > >> properties, beer bottles dumped or smashed, will drink till they drop, but > >> with the authorities who are not there when you call on them, do not quite > >> deliver what they supposed to do, turns communities and Legal entities > >> around and give the liquor establishments the right of way to proceed! > >> > Unless you are deprived of your sleep or sanity, Raymond is a fine guy, > >> thumbs up for him, but wait till Raymond laughs behind your house. > > >> > So, is the above re the bad places, the crawly dingy ones, yes but no, > >> not quite. I refer to the nice establishments, sometimes the small neat or > >> cozy ones, the ones who supposedly does Observatory residents a favour by > >> staying open way late beyond their trading hours or takes a chance more > >> than often - but spills out their well inebriated patron/s to get into > >> his/her vehicle and drive off or becomes a victim for a robbery or cannot > >> contain his/her bladder or vomits into your flower pot or behind your wall > >> or at your gate; allows a DJ or two or a talented musician to make music > >> which can be heard two to three blocks away; or allows only neatly dressed > >> patrons but who's thump of music can be heard 250 meters away; or you > >> neither know if the patron is well drunk or drugged but plays ball all > >> round; I can go on, but... > > >> > Promises by liquor applicants are often made but poorly kept, > >> motivations in applications on paper are the finest but on the ground > >> becomes flawed in practice, once given a licence it becomes near impossible > >> to reverse, the Law itself seems to get reversed because the business > >> perpetrator is considered above the affected resident, time and time again, > >> and this is no joke! > > >> > An English Pub for Raymond being an American is possibly out of sorts > >> In South Africa. It's nice if we can run an English pub in Observatory > >> with an English Liquor Board, a Bobby on patrol with his baton in hand to > >> visit her Majesty's pub and with a stiff upper lip, check in that all is in > >> place at the pub and with it's patrons then popping on further down the > >> road and see the little o'l Tannie off to her abode at 11 pm after her > >> nice little snort at her lekker Local pub. > > >> > Folks, I wish Lions Corner well but if Lion's Corner has all its ducks > >> in a row, well then. I however disagree to widen the footprint of liquor > >> into the corridors of the residential domain in Observatory, and will give > >> it my best attention, both for and against as "Everybody Loves Observatory > >> ". > > >> > Kind regards > >> > James > > >> > James Cowley > > >> > 082 926 1220 > > >> > 021 448 2824 (t&f) > > >> > Observatory Neighborhood Watch: Chairman > > >> > On 22 February 2012 18:54, Bev Pettit <[email protected]><mailto: > >> [email protected]>> wrote: > >> > I don't need to explain myself ! > >> > We have more than enuf liquor holes in the area ! > >> > I am already plagued by drunk idiots that walk past my place at all > >> times of the night. > >> > I have also had to put up with drunk folk pee-ing AND DEFACATING on > >> pavement outside my place and next door. > > >> > I'm also not interested in entering pleasant / unpleasant watering hole > >> debate. > >> > It leaves me cold > > >> > I HAVE HAD ENOUGH ! > > >> > So you don't like me or what I say..... > > >> > I'm crestfallen ! > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto: > >> [email protected]>. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<mailto: > >> obsnw%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. > >> > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > >> groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en. > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto: > >> [email protected]>. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<mailto: > >> [email protected]m>. > >> > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > >> groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "The > > ... > > read more » > > 330.gif > < 1KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. 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