Hi guys at the Corner, What time do your doors open? Looking forward to seeing the place.
Iain Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: "Alison Barrett" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:14:10 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [obsnw] Re: FW: "Lions Corner" Application for Liquor license CASPER, WE ARE ALL INVITING OURSLEVES TO YOUR OPENING NIGHT AND WILL DRINK A TOAST TOGETHER (to a healthy prosperous beginning of your business) Ps when is the opening? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Casper Sent: 23 February 2012 11:57 AM To: The Observatory Neighbourhood watch Subject: [obsnw] Re: FW: "Lions Corner" Application for Liquor license Thanks guys for all the positive feedback as well. This is great!! We are looking forward to adding value to the community. See you at Lion Corner :-) On Feb 23, 10:14 am, Rosemary Robins <[email protected]> wrote: > Casper - don't upset yourself over a very small minority - and look at > all the free publicity you have received.[?] > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Iain Watermeyer > <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > I have been watching the e-mail exchanges and it saddens me that > > there are people who still have knee jerk prejudicial response to a > > new enterprise. I for one am thrilled that there is a new spot > > opening up for the more responsible minded people living in obz. > > > looking forward to visiting :) > > > Iain > > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Doug Price <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Like I have said earlier we will give you the benefit of the doubt. > >> Good luck for your opening and continuing in perfect harmony with > >> the residents of Observatory. > >> I like to see business's be successful. So hopefully the word will > >> go round that Lion Tavern is a good place to visit. > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf Of Casper > >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:28 AM > >> To: The Observatory Neighbourhood watch > >> Subject: [obsnw] Re: FW: "Lions Corner" Application for Liquor > >> license > > >> It actually sickens me to think that there is residents with so > >> little believe in us (Lion Corner). > > >> The fact that you expect people to walk out of my establishment and > >> vomit and use your garden or flower pots as toilets is disgusting!! > >> No one with such tendencies should be allowed in anyway. The people > >> that fertilize your gardens are not our target market. Lion Corner > >> is a respectable up market bar. We are not here to make trouble or > >> be a nuisance. Our intensions are good although we are constantly > >> compared with and stereotyped as liquor holes where scum comes together. > > >> We also have made no opening night promises. We only asked that our > >> neighbours please accommodate us for the opening night as the turn > >> up will probably be overwhelming. And that this will not be our > >> normal trade. After all this will be our opening night and we are > >> excited about it and we have put a lot of hard work into it! So > >> with all the negative comments and disbelieve from our fellow > >> residents and neighbours, believe it or not but we are taking you in consideration and have been from day 1. > > >> On a lighter note we have also received a lot of positive feedback > >> from the Observatory residents who can't wait for this Purple Paradise to open! > >> For those of you who have send us welcoming messages and told us > >> how excited you are of our opening, this means the world to us and > >> we are looking forward to seeing your at Lion Corner Tavern. > > >> Haha, very good point Nikki! :-) > > >> So one more day to go till the opening! See the all you happy > >> hearted people there! ;-) > > >> Kind Regards > >> Casper Potgieter > >> Owner of 205 Lower Main > >> And Co-owner of Lion Corner Tavern > > >> On Feb 23, 8:25 am, Doug Price <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Hi James, > > >> > You could not have put it more precisely. > >> > I also understand Bev's frustration with the amount of liquor > >> > licenses > >> in the "Obs Strip", which is very short. > >> > My only problem is that when the trouble does come, and the > >> > pre-opening > >> promises are not kept, we the residents are left with the headaches. > >> > Never see the owners of the establishments with buckets, > >> > disinfectant > >> and hoses in their hands cleaning the streets around their > >> establishments, or around the complainants residence where the defecations take place. > >> > I am not against this Lions Corner, I say give them a chance, BUT > >> > what > >> happens if they mess up, as a resident how can I get rid of them, > >> also what happens when the place is sold the liquor license does > >> not die but gets used by the next owner, as we have seen happen far > >> too many times further up the strip. > > >> > Doug. > > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> > Behalf Of James Cowley > >> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:21 AM > >> > To: [email protected] > >> > Subject: Re: [obsnw] Re: FW: "Lions Corner" Application for > >> > Liquor license > > >> > Yes, "Everybody loves Raymond", sure do, he's funny and charming > >> > and > >> often gets his point, moral or idea across to all. > > >> > Everyone loves an English Pub, it's a good vibe, a few drinks, > >> > meet > >> some good guys and gals, and off we go. > >> > Coming into this debate is very tricky, but as noted to Doug, I > >> > would > >> follow up. > >> > Henk, the OCA representative is the best suited to make a > >> > response, and > >> will leave it for him to do. Business pressure, and volunteer time > >> to spend hours of reply or motivation re liquor related matters in > >> Obs, however takes its toll on one, but sure he will fit a reply soon. > > >> > Obs carries a heavy load of poor liquor establishment etiquette, > >> legally they can trade but gravely exceed their bounds. > > >> > For most of you, you have no touch with the hassles, not of the > >> > pubs, > >> clubs or 'restaurants', but with the authorities who have to > >> protect you and me of noise, urinating around every corner door or > >> wall, loud shouting whist walking to their residences across Obs, > >> fights, damages to cars or properties, beer bottles dumped or > >> smashed, will drink till they drop, but with the authorities who > >> are not there when you call on them, do not quite deliver what they > >> supposed to do, turns communities and Legal entities around and give the liquor establishments the right of way to proceed! > >> > Unless you are deprived of your sleep or sanity, Raymond is a > >> > fine guy, > >> thumbs up for him, but wait till Raymond laughs behind your house. > > >> > So, is the above re the bad places, the crawly dingy ones, yes > >> > but no, > >> not quite. I refer to the nice establishments, sometimes the small > >> neat or cozy ones, the ones who supposedly does Observatory > >> residents a favour by staying open way late beyond their trading > >> hours or takes a chance more than often - but spills out their well > >> inebriated patron/s to get into his/her vehicle and drive off or > >> becomes a victim for a robbery or cannot contain his/her bladder or > >> vomits into your flower pot or behind your wall or at your gate; > >> allows a DJ or two or a talented musician to make music which can > >> be heard two to three blocks away; or allows only neatly dressed > >> patrons but who's thump of music can be heard 250 meters away; or > >> you neither know if the patron is well drunk or drugged but plays ball all round; I can go on, but... > > >> > Promises by liquor applicants are often made but poorly kept, > >> motivations in applications on paper are the finest but on the > >> ground becomes flawed in practice, once given a licence it becomes > >> near impossible to reverse, the Law itself seems to get reversed > >> because the business perpetrator is considered above the affected > >> resident, time and time again, and this is no joke! > > >> > An English Pub for Raymond being an American is possibly out of > >> > sorts > >> In South Africa. It's nice if we can run an English pub in > >> Observatory with an English Liquor Board, a Bobby on patrol with > >> his baton in hand to visit her Majesty's pub and with a stiff upper > >> lip, check in that all is in place at the pub and with it's patrons > >> then popping on further down the road and see the little o'l > >> Tannie off to her abode at 11 pm after her nice little snort at her lekker Local pub. > > >> > Folks, I wish Lions Corner well but if Lion's Corner has all its > >> > ducks > >> in a row, well then. I however disagree to widen the footprint of > >> liquor into the corridors of the residential domain in Observatory, > >> and will give it my best attention, both for and against as > >> "Everybody Loves Observatory ". > > >> > Kind regards > >> > James > > >> > James Cowley > > >> > 082 926 1220 > > >> > 021 448 2824 (t&f) > > >> > Observatory Neighborhood Watch: Chairman > > >> > On 22 February 2012 18:54, Bev Pettit <[email protected]><mailto: > >> [email protected]>> wrote: > >> > I don't need to explain myself ! > >> > We have more than enuf liquor holes in the area ! > >> > I am already plagued by drunk idiots that walk past my place at > >> > all > >> times of the night. > >> > I have also had to put up with drunk folk pee-ing AND DEFACATING > >> > on > >> pavement outside my place and next door. > > >> > I'm also not interested in entering pleasant / unpleasant > >> > watering hole > >> debate. > >> > It leaves me cold > > >> > I HAVE HAD ENOUGH ! > > >> > So you don't like me or what I say..... > > >> > I'm crestfallen ! > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> > Google > >> Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto: > >> [email protected]>. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<mailto: > >> obsnw%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. > >> > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > >> groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en. > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> > Google > >> Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto: > >> [email protected]>. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<mailto: > >> [email protected]m>. > >> > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > >> groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/obsnw?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "The > > ... > > read more » > > 330.gif > < 1KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. 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