And btw, the old cart, used JavaScript all the time. Why is this
just coming up now? Why don't we figure out a parallel solution for
other people who want to turn of JavaScript - instead of holding
everyone back?
My 2cents
On Dec 15, 2006, at 8:27 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote:
Chris, JavaScript is ingrained in just about anything that submits
forms anymore. I could understand saying something like this about
Flash - however my mind is changing on that as well - but saying
that you have to be able to manage something as complicated as the
feature set that OFBiz employs without JavaScript is almost like
saying - not everyone is off of Netscape 4.x and we need to set the
bar _that_ low for our CSS/HTML standardization.
My vote for this is to move forward, not hang back. JavaScript, as
much as I'm not a huge fan, is a reality in todays world - and the
use of of DOES NOT make the code bug filled.
Cheers,
Tim
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HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
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On Dec 15, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Chris Howe wrote:
Tim,
To your post
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-510#action_12458496
I would want to see it degrade. The fact that SVN
OFBiz does not degrade should not be support to
introduce more code that follows a poor pattern. The
current state of OFBiz not being able to add to cart
when JS is turned off needs to be reported as a bug
and fixed.
Wanting to see this degrade should especially be true
for a functionality of "Anonymous" checkout. This
means you're wanting to sell product to random people.
So, if you're wanting to sell to random people, you
would want to lower the barriers as far as possible
for them to use your site. Good web surfing practice
is to white list JS for sites that you trust. This is
especially true in corporate environments.
So to summarize, my two cents would be to report the
add to cart bug to JIRA, fix OFBiz's SVN of this
pattern and degrade the JS in the anonymous checkout
patch. But to quickly see this kind of functionality
into OFBiz, I would prefer to see it added to a
sandbox so that others could help work out these
peculiarities.
--- Tim Ruppert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would certainly love to see the highly useful
Anonymous Checkout
Process example used in OFBiz - at least until
someone else comes up
with a good reason to remove Dojo and go to a
different front end
framewok. Does anyone have any real objections to
doing this in
light of the fact that no one has another example
_and_ that the
checkout process is unnecessarily tedious?
Cheers,
Tim
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6594
On Dec 15, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Jacopo Cappellato
wrote:
Here are my two cents about this interesting
thread:
1) the Ajax toolkit's license must be fully
compatible with the
OFBiz license
2) even if it's a good thing to try to find one
official Ajax
toolkit for OFBiz now and finally get this ball
running, I think we
should do this but also review the decision (and
the results we'll
get with the adopted framework) in 2-4 months from
now and possibly
return on it; I mean that we should keep an
open-minded approach
and also consider new solutions (or criticism to
the adopted
toolkit) since I think that in the Ajax world the
effects of the
'software darwinism'
(http://www.apache.org/foundation/
glossary.html#SoftwareDarwinism) still are not
mature
Jacopo
A. Zeneski wrote:
I'll let this thread run a little while longer
before we say to
have a
full official vote. As of right now, it appears
most people are
looking
at Dojo, and that is fine with me.
It seems that most of these toolkits do the same
thing, so to me its
just a matter of making a decision so I can push
forward with my
work.
As for being more active on the lists, sorry I
have been MIA for so
long. I've been involved in a lot of custom (non
open source) work
as of
late and apologize for not being around. I will
do my best to be
here as
much as possible. Thanks!
Andrew
