"The point is with M$ muddying the waters with its XAML"
I've thought for a long time that a more robust SVG++ would have been worthwhile.
You can understand the commercial realities for MS, but it constantly makes for very murky waters for IT and ISVs.
I've conastnatly thoiught that just becoming a MS clone was not worthwhile, and as I suggested earlier Delphi had always been giving us things that MS wasn't offering at the same time in a developemtn environment, and so feel vindicated. But now it is as if with Delphi we are being hybridised and slowly cloned any way!
I still think that if Borland really worked on a good strategy on all fronts it could still harvest customer good will, though now latent with some people and harvest new parket share.
If I'm wroing, or Borland doiesn;t, then I need to really look at mono and the likes, unless Lazarus really does get up and standing again!
Another option is the way Php is moving towards proper cross-platform visual widgets for even desktop programmes.
On 18/11/05, Neven MacEwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Paul
The point is with M$ muddying the waters with its XAML (to fight
mozilla) is addition to Win32, Win64, .NET, JRE, Ajax. If I was starting
a new project in the commercial areana as a rich fat client I think .NET
has the impetus, I'd put half my devs on Windows and half on Mono, The
Mono option may prevent M$ from pulling the plug on it once its served
its purpose (stymied Java), who knows what those pricks will do
And to dev .net you'd prob be best with c#, so by the time Kylix becomes
and option (with native cross platform dev) it will be irrelevant
Neven
Paul A Norman wrote:
> I agree that Mono is certainly worth having a look at, by other people's
> accounts it seems to be a very good option.
>
> On 18/11/05, *Neven MacEwan* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
>
> Paul
>
> Why, Mono/JRE would be a 'better' option
>
> Paul A Norman wrote:
> > It would look pretty good for Linux to provide that base that
> people are
> > looking for, but will Delphi be positioned to be in the mix when
> iy happens?
> >
> > On 18/11/05, *Paul Eggleton* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
> >
> > Neven MacEwan wrote on Friday, 18 November 2005 10:39 a.m.:
> > > The problem with Kylix was a tiny demand for Linux
> Desktops, This
> > > is compounded by Linux having no practical equivalent of
> Terminal
> > > Services/ Citrix
> >
> > This has been true until fairly recently. Now there is NX
> > (http://www.nomachine.com/ < http://www.nomachine.com/>).
> This is a
> > commercial product. I have used
> > the NoMachine NX client in conjunction with the FreeNX server
> > (http://freenx.berlios.de/ <http://freenx.berlios.de/>) and I
> can tell you that as a user and
> > administrator of a Citrix farm, NX is approaching the level
> of Citrix
> > and possibly exceeds the capabilities of Terminal Services /
> RDP. There
> > are issues, of course, but it is getting there.
> >
> > > The leap in Open Source in in apps (Thunderbird, firefox,
> Opera,
> > Open
> > > Office)
> >
> > I agree. However I think the apps are now there, whereas they
> weren't
> > when Kylix came out.
> >
> > > It will take years for Linux to make a dent in the desktop
> >
> > Maybe. Inroads are being made and have already been made, though.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
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