Glynn Foster wrote:
>
> On 31/03/2009, at 10:16 AM, Michelle Olson wrote:
>
>> Glynn Foster wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31/03/2009, at 9:16 AM, Michelle Olson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Simon Phipps wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2009, at 19:21, Michelle Olson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a long process to update the Constitution (or any document 
>>>>>> for that matter), so May seems unreasonable.
>>>>>
>>>>> What further changes do you believe are needed for the 
>>>>> Constitution? Until I hear a concrete answer to that question that 
>>>>> implies extensive work, I think it's perfectly reasonable to 
>>>>> imagine it's possible to set goals in the near-term.
>>>>>
>>>>> S.
>>>>>
>>>> --aside: It is generally not a good practice to snip the content of 
>>>> a longer email and respond only to a singular phrase on a 
>>>> discussion list.--
>>>>
>>>> The extensive work to be done isn't in the discrete changes to the 
>>>> document, it is in driving agreement on the concepts and direction 
>>>> and real-world use of the document going forward.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I agree. My interpretation was that while there was a 
>>> small group who disagreed with the charter being out of whack with 
>>> the proposed constitution (and I agree we should go to them and ask 
>>> why and what we can do to help change their minds), the reason why 
>>> it didn't pass is because we have a lazy electorate. Simple.
>>>
>>
>> Wow, that is really washing your hands of responsibility, Glynn.
>
> No, it's the reality of community governance. I'll happy point you to 
> plenty of evidence from *8* years of elections in the GNOME community 
> if you like where the voter turnout has shown similar results.

So, it's not just us then? All communities have lazy electorates? I 
don't get your point and I'm not sure how GNOME community has anything 
to do with why the OSOL Constitution 2009 didn't pass.

>
>>> That's all well and good assuming you get feedback. I think you can 
>>> safely expect the list to go quiet again over the next couple of 
>>> months. Quite frankly, governance isn't a very interesting topic - 
>>> people generally prefer doing.
>>
>> I generally create a lot of (hopefully useful) conversation wherever 
>> I go on the opensolaris lists, so I do assume that I'll get feedback. 
>> If I don't get feedback, I have failed and I won't blame others for 
>> being lazy. Feeding back is doing and if you incorporate feedback 
>> from others, it becomes very interesting.
>
> The very best of luck with that.

You must be a lucky charm because I'm clearly already a magnet for 
feedback! ;)

-Michelle

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