Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> Peter Tribble wrote:
>   
>> 2) The removal of the open source requirement.
>>
>> That's a thornier one. The OGB owns no copyright in the code and can 
>> therefore
>> make no pronouncements as to licensing. The fact remains that we should be
>> an open source community and many people have joined the community on that
>> basis. Strengthening of the purpose from the charter might make it easier.
>>     
>
> But it's a requirement that OpenSolaris has never fully met - you still can't
> build a fully open source distro of OpenSolaris, and declaring that everything
> we've shipped isn't really a product of the OpenSolaris community until the
> Emanicipation Project is completed doesn't make sense.
>
> Perhaps the compromise position would be to replace the current text of:
>
>    All software produced by the OpenSolaris Community shall be licensed
>    to the public free of charge under one or more open source licenses
>    approved by the Open Source Initiative.
>
> With:
>
>    All software produced by the OpenSolaris Community shall be licensed
>    to the public free of charge under one or more licenses approved by
>    the OpenSolaris Governing Board.
>
>   
With all due respect.. I think the OSI is more qualified than the OGB to 
determine which license(s) are suitable for an open source project.  The 
real goal here is to build a fully open source distro based on 
OpenSolaris technology.  This is something I've personally spent a lot 
of time working on and planning completely outside of the emancipation 
project.  I'm sure the intentions here are well meaning, but to make the 
de facto and de jure closer to one in this case is a significant 
regression.  My superficial understanding is that Sun can't contribute 
to the emancipation project since there needs to exist a clear 
separation.  As a compromise any "Open"Solaris technology distro which 
isn't packaged and building under an entirely OSI approved license must 
not use "Open" in the name.  The other "problem" here is that the 
OpenSolaris Community really isn't producing OpenSolaris.  The fact is 
that Sun is very generously providing OpenSolaris.  Is this part of the 
emancipation projects goals or which group should consider some sort of 
sustainability plan or further community role in the development of 
"Open"Solaris technology.

In my *very* humble opinion the best route to more closely match reality 
would be to take the current "Open"Solaris, rename it Indiana and let it 
continue in parallel to SXCE as it already does.  From there the 
OpenSolaris community is only orphaned from producing a sponsored OS 
until a fully open one exists and is *approved* by a community vote.  
The community I'm sure is capable of determining which OpenSolaris 
technology distribution(s) it should advocate and the end result is 
pressure on the community to join together instead of trying to dictate 
or influence Sun's goals.  The other way to handle this is let the OGB 
vote on the approved distribution, but getting more people involved and 
aware is a good thing sometimes.

Would the OpenSolaris community and or Sun possible help this effort?

It's beyond the scope of this email, but I'm more than happy to go into 
technical and community related issues holding back the progress of 
removing the encumbered parts of an OpenSolaris technology distro.  (For 
private emails please use codestr0m at osunix org)

Kindly,


./Christopher

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