Title: RE: [Ogf-l] Open Gaming Alert: Action! System by GRG

*grin*
The word wrap on the web interface seems cranky so I'm going to answer stuff up here at the top so it actually makes sense. Hope you don't mind.

1. I wasn't refering to the stated goals of the logo, those are written from a "What we can do for you" perspective. I meant in terms of a corporate "What the logos and the license will preserve for us and our corporate identity." Usually that's something you don't advertize.

For example: Wizards says "D20 will let you use D&D stuff in your own products." Wizards secretly says: "Wmahaha! Now the world will be using OUR Rules! We Win!" That stuff.


2. I've noticed. You seem to be rather stuborn about re-inventing the wheel.


3. I could go back and find the thread about re-writing the D20 STL if you wanted. It's a perfectly legal option that the Free20 project is using to create a logo for themselves.They're even doing up a SRD for themselves. The rules aren't all that different from the D20 base however which as I think about it is a little dissapointing. I'd like to see some larger game type variations. I guess I should work on that myself if I want to change it.



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Subject: Re: [Ogf-l] Open Gaming Alert: Action! System by GRG

In a message dated 10/6/01 5:30:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< The question I would then have for Gold Rush is this: What is the
intended
purpose of the 3 logos? Are they intended as a means to indicate
compatibility OR are they intended as a means to control brand
indentity? >>

  That's pretty fairly explained on the web site, I think. (Not to sound

snippy; I'm just tired after a long con day and not particularly
motivated to
retype a page of text here <G>).
 
<< IF you are using it as a means of controlling your property ie. You
can
use our stats and rules but ONLY if you put this logo on it then
creating
your own license is the way to go. You may loose some of the die hard
Open
Movement supporters that way, but not too much to worry about.
 
 On the other hand, if you just want a compatibility indicator ie. You
can
put our logo on if you meet the following standards... then rather than
re-inventing the wheel I'd recommend going this route:
 
 1- The Action! SRD - Put All of your open rules into a single
product/file
 and release it under the OGL.>>

  Thanks for the thought but that's not something we're considering at
at
this point.
 
<< 2- The Action! STL - Open up the D20STL, Change all references to D20

system
 to Action! system and change all references to Wizards of the Coast to
Gold
 Rush Games. >>

  I don't believe we could do that even if we wanted to.
 
<< 3- The Action! STL Guide - This one is the complicated one. The
D20STL
Guide
 is Open Content so you can use it as a template for your own. Go
through and
 define what the basic requirements are in order to use each of the 3
Logos
 on your product. >>
<< It'll be interesting to see how well you pull it off. You'll find
that by
and large people will use and publish compatible works under this
license
particularly if you include the ability to include character creation.
>>

  Indeed. I'm intereted to see how well we pull it off, as well. ;)
 
<< A significant minority will probably publish hybrid
rules(Action!/D20)
just out of a sense of experimentation since would become possible. They

wouldn't however be able to use either the D20 or Action! logos. >>

  There you go.

  Mark Arsenault
  President, Gold Rush Entertainment, Inc. | http://www.goldrushg.com
  Executive Director, The Game Publishers Assoc. | http://www.thegpa.org
 
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