I'll be *this* bold (and it's totally honest!). I *love *the Public Domain review! And with the new logo and tagline and all this discussion, I *literally* forgot that the PDR was an OK project. I actually was trying to remember if OK had anything to do with culture and art or if it was a false impression.
If I could, I'd propose a plain old *veto* of the "See how data" tagline. I'm honestly thinking like "holy moly, how could I forget the PDR!" But the whole rebranding seems to have nothing to do with it and seems to be a totally different organization… I know you could read a lot of different emotion behind this text, but I'm truly more surprised and baffled than anything else. Sincerely, Aaron -- Aaron Wolf wolftune.com On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Andrew Gray <[email protected]> wrote: > On 16 June 2014 17:31, Aaron Wolf <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Rufus. I agree. The concern was initially about potential shift > in > > focus and concern about inclusion of the community in the decisions. > > > > To be clear, I always thought it was great that lots of Open Data stuff > was > > happening, but I saw "Open Knowledge" as basically including "Free > Culture", > > and when I think of stuff cultural works like music and art, I see zero > > place for that in "See how data can change the world". And I think that > will > > remain the case for everyone who ever sees that tagline. Nobody will ever > > see that tagline and think OK has anything directly to do with free/open > > art. > > Piping up from the background... I felt somewhat uncomfortable about > the "data can change the world" idea, and I think this is a key point. > It's certainly true to say "yes, of course, it encompasses cultural > things as well, regardless of the tagline"... but that doesn't help > someone who isn't familiar, doesn't already know that silent footnote, > and may well be put off engaging by the emphasis on something that, to > them, seems tangential. > > To me, one of the best and most interesting things OKFN has done is > the Public Domain Review - which is a thousand miles from data. > Likewise, the whole OpenGLAM work has been very much content-oriented > (though data work plays a part). Neither of these are what you'd > expect from "see how data can change the world" > > To go back to Rufus' comparisons, this is a bit like Greenpeace > deciding its tagline should be "caring for the whales". I mean, yes, > it's certainly correct, but it might also be a bit misleading ;-) > > (Obligatory preference: "Open knowledge: open data, open minds", > without repetition, is quite neat at bridging the full range) > > -- > - Andrew Gray > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > okfn-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-discuss >
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