On 5/11/2010 11:24 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:

> Quoting Jonathan Rochkind<[email protected]>:
>
>> OL can and will modify the data (not just automated transformation, but
>> human editing, yeah?) after the original import, right?
>
> OL is wiki-based, so yes, anyone can go in and edit, some some
> automated edits (adding data from Wikipedia, for example) does happen.
> In history you can see and compare the edits a record has gone through.

This answer, while no doubt completely accurate, does not address Mr. 
Rochkind's core issue: how do you get OL's current data exported in MARC 
format? The answer, it seems, is that you can't.

/If/ the OL record was derived from a MARC record, you can use the OL 
web interface to find the original data from which the OL record was 
derived. If you examine the URL closely, from there you can get to the 
dump files stored at Internet Archive. You now have the MARC data dump, 
and OpenLibrary becomes irrelevant. If, on the other hand, the OL record 
was /not/ derived from a MARC record, such as one of the hundreds of 
"vanity" records added by authors promoting their own books, there is no 
way to get /that/ record out in MARC format. And if the record was 
derived from a MARC record and subsequently /corrected/ (which hopefully 
will occur frequently), there's no way to get the /corrected/ data in 
MARC format.

It seems to me that if I were a librarian, I would want /lots/ of data 
that I could import into my own database, or I would want data for a 
single record delivered to me in a structured format that an automated 
process could consume. In either case, I would want that data in a 
standard format so I don't have to create new, custom computer 
applications; neither the OL web interface or the OL RDF or JSON APIs 
satisfy these requirements.

On the other hand, as a "patron" most of the data contained in the OL 
catalog is of little interest to me unless it leads me to a /book/. 
Knowing that Farrar, Straus and Giroux published _The World is Flat_ in 
2005 is not useful unless that information helps me actually get my 
hands on a copy.

So, except as an entry into Internet Archive's text archive, I'm having 
a hard time coming up with a use case in which OpenLibrary is actually 
useful. I think it's time for an answer to the questions, "what is the 
intended use for OpenLibrary?" and "how well does the current interface 
address the documented intended use?"

>
> kc
>
>>
>> I'm personally less interested in seeing the original MARC than I am in
>> seeing OL's current data exported in MARC format.
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