Ok, I just created: http://open.vocab.org/terms/associatedEntity
which links two frbr:Endeavours together symmetrically. -Ross. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Ross Singer <[email protected]> wrote: > Karen, Erik is right that: > > <http://openlibrary.org/works/OL262758W/> > frbr:Manifestation <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL10236414M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL10636839M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL10681592M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL10686044M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL13268284M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL1937352M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL20352933M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL21968605M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL22836306M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL24374464M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL24375966M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL3969888M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL5416735M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL5526619M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL6363476M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL7261137M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL7262049M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL7262683M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL7603172M/>, > <http://openlibrary.org/books/OL7851787M/> ; > a frbr:Work . > > isn't going to work (frbr:Manifestation being a class, not a > property). While you're right that there is no (current) obvious way > to go jump over frbr:Entities in the WEMI chain, there are some > options here. > > For the version of the OL data that we host in the Platform, we're > using dcterms:hasVersion/isVersionOf. > > http://api.talis.com/stores/openlibrary/meta?about=http://openlibrary.org/works/OL262758W&output=xml > > which isn't great, but the fact that both ends of the chain are > frbr:Entities, we can infer the meaning. Even better would be add > properties to http://open.vocab.org/: something like > hasManifestation/manifestationOf. Perhaps even better would be to > leverage http://vocab.org/frbr/core.html#Endeavour - associatedEntity > as a property name perhaps? - that makes the modeling less > complicated. That way we know that these are in the same WEMI chain, > but we don't necessarily have to explicitly define /what/ it is in the > relationship. > > -Ross. > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Karen Coyle <[email protected]> wrote: >> Quoting Erik Hetzner <[email protected]>: >> >> >>> What I meant to be getting at is that the rdf:type of the resources >>> M1, M2, ... is (currently) workManifested, while the predicate linking >>> W and M1, M2, ... is frbr:Manifestation. I think this is backwards; >>> they rdf:type should be frbr:Manifestation, while the predicate should >>> be workManifested. >> >> Thanks, Erik. From this conversation I have come to the realization >> that there is no way to say: "this Work is Manifested as..." using >> FRBR concepts. Instead, what I need to do is to create short "records" >> for each manifestation that in effect each say: "manifests WorkX". I >> don't think I can encapsulate the whole in a single rdf/xml unit >> without creating some uber-structure that holds them together (which >> would perhaps be a representation of FRBR Group 1 as a super-class, >> something the the FRBR committee has rejected). I'll mock up something >> and post it before I code it into the OL template. >> >> kc >> >>> >>> As to which direction workManifested points, or its domain or range, I >>> have no clue, but I assume you are correct here. >>> >>> best, Erik >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ol-tech mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Karen Coyle >> [email protected] http://kcoyle.net >> ph: 1-510-540-7596 >> m: 1-510-435-8234 >> skype: kcoylenet >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ol-tech mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] >> > _______________________________________________ Ol-tech mailing list [email protected] http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [email protected]
