Tom et al,

The OL "license terms" are the IA "license terms" -- thus:
   http://archive.org/about/terms.php

It is not CC0, because most of the info in OL is not owned by OL/IA. 
Only a rights owner can assign a CC license.

OL already pulls in descriptions from Wikipedia and sources them:
   http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL29497A/Herman_Melville

I believe that this fulfills the "attribution - share alike" of Wikipedia.

kc

On 2/12/13 11:16 AM, Tom Morris wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:58 AM, John Shutt <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>     I noticed that a lot of books on Open Library don't have
>     descriptions, so I've started working on NondescriptBot
>     <https://github.com/pemulis/nondescript-bot>, which would make it
>     easy to pull book summaries from Wikipedia, reformat them, and add
>     them to Open Library. I haven't written any code yet (except for the
>     login, which was adapted from IdentifierBot
>     <https://github.com/dmontalvo/IdentifierBot/blob/master/fastadder.py>),
>     but you can see the basic outline in the comments
>     
> <https://github.com/pemulis/nondescript-bot/blob/master/nondescriptbot.py>.
>
>     Before I go any further, I want to see if anyone knows if this bot
>     would be okay from a licensing standpoint. Wikipedia entries are
>     licensed under CC-BY-SA
>     
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License>,
>     which requires attribution, while Open Library content is supposed
>     to be licensed under CC0
>     <https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/>, which waives
>     all rights. It's trivial to put a CC-BY-SA disclaimer at the bottom
>     of a description, but I don't know if it's permitted to add content
>     to OL that falls under that license.
>
>
> No, you can't use a copyrightable amount of text which is CC-BY-SA
> licensed on a CC0 site.  Part of the license is that you need to enforce
> it for sub-licensees & reusers, which there's no way to do with a CC0 work.
>
> You could paraphrase or reword the description, but that's clearly not a
> job for a bot.  You could also extract a small enough amount of text
> that it would fall under "fair use" guidelines and then link back to
> Wikipedia for the full text.  If nothing else, links to Wikipedia would
> be useful (provided that their reliable).
>
>     Assuming this bot is allowed, it would be awesome to get advice and
>     pull requests from other developers! I'm coming into this project
>     with very limited knowledge of Python, so I'm sure there will be
>     plenty of places where my code could be improved.
>
>
> I'm happy to help with Python as well as OpenLibrary or Wikipedia APIs.
>
> Tom
>
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