I also agree with both point of views,
 
VMTesting should be good for final users, when they don't have an extra 
hardware to a physical installation
of OMV and for some cases of developments when it's not hardware dependent 
(such core kernel modifications, systemd and others senstive stuffs)
but it's a not really trustful final test for system behaviour/performance and 
it's stability (mainly speaking about networking stuff).
 
I don't know open-wm-tools, but seems to be a very nice option against 
proprietary VMWare stuff.
 
Another point about virtualization that'd be good to think about is our support 
and integration with KVM (Kernel Native Virtualization stuff)
I can bring several more advanced users to us and usually is faster than other 
stuffs:)
 
Best Regards,
Marco A Benatto


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:31:35PM +0100, Nicolò Costanza wrote:
> NO,
> 
> These are for vmware products, for ex. vmplayer
> 
> if in iso, perhaps should work as guest addictions
> 
> Il Mercoledì 14 Maggio 2014 13:28, Colin Close <[email protected]> ha 
> scritto:
>  
> Nicco,
> Are you saying that open-vm-tools performs better than Vbox? I've never used 
> it but if it's a good alternative I might use it for Qa since Vbox has 
> trouble 
> with video on boot. 
> 
> Best
> Colin
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 14 May 2014 10:26:11 Nicolò Costanza wrote:
> > yes, indeed!
> > 
> > 
> > I agree too with the "blacky" point of view
> > 
> > 
> > for this reason then we should add also vmware-tools on iso,
> > to be full compliant with the free vmware player virtualizer...
> > 
> > http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > bye, NicCo
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > Il Mercoledì 14 Maggio 2014 11:14, Raphaël Jadot <[email protected]> ha scritto:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I agree with both of you, in fact one vision is more developer centric, and
> > the other user centric, but IMHO both are correct, and we can't ignore that
> > Vbox is a simple way to test and be convinced by OM Lx.
> > 
> > What does "voit" means?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 2014-05-14 7:51 GMT+02:00 Blackcrack <[email protected]>:
> > 
> > Hi Nicco :)
> > 
> > >maybe  it's an VBox an dump and stupid testcenario, but it's for the
> > 
> >     user
> > 
> > >the easiest possible /cenario who it's possible for fast and easy
> > 
> >     testing an an actual OS..
> > 
> > >it's clear, to be not the best technical/tactical possible for view,
> > 
> >     how it's run,
> > 
> > >and how fast it is, but for the normal user an through out usable
> > 
> >     medium, that he also used ..
> > 
> > >at first to be see, whether it is also usable for it, this, dont
> > 
> >     forget..
> > 
> > >and the mass it is easy the normal User, the 2.nd it is the
> > 
> >     Technical Peoples
> > 
> > >and at last also the programmers ..
> > >but all around mus it works, in real Hardware and in VBox.. you see
> > >
> >     :)
> > >
> > >it's maybe the badest hardcore worst scenario for you as kernel
> > 
> >     Builder, but..
> > 
> > >buddy, i know, you can do it ;) *bg*
> > >
> > >how ever, the Users .. no, the most users test it in an vm at first,
> > 
> >     then on real hardware
> > 
> > >if works for they are.. you see, this is why VBOX mus be include in
> > 
> >     the test,
> > 
> > >to works well also in vbox, to be the peoples to be works also well
> > 
> >     for they are ..
> > 
> > >to be they are able for see, to be the best system for they are and
> > 
> >     they are see,
> > 
> > >he dont mus trust only, they are can know it.. to be the best for
> > 
> >     they are..
> > 
> > >with test before in an vm.. and don't need an pure trust in "voit"
> > 
> >     words ;)
> > 
> > >best regards
> > >Blacky
> > >
> > >
> > >Am 14.05.2014 07:22, schrieb Nicolò Costanza:
> > >
> > >Hi
> > >
> > >>One review  >>>
> > >>
> > >>http://frederic.bezies.free.fr/blog/?p=11135#more-11135
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Considerations (perhaps this text. or with a few small modification, can
> > >>be used for our wiki)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Trying an OS with VBox must be considered enough to see the graphic theme
> > >>and the disposal of the menu and the programs inside, none can be said
> > >>about the OS guest responsiveness and reactiveness!!!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>When people install, test and review only in Virtualbox then pretending to
> > >>judge speed of the virtualized OS only from that virtual environment is
> > >>like being a useless and stupid test:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>a> if a fast and responsive OS like OM Lx 2014 is hosting many OS running
> > >>as guests, for example like in our Demo showed at Linux Tag, all guest
> > >>OSes can be running blazing fast or at least as native, and sometimes
> > >>they can work also faster than natively...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>b> on the contrary if a slow Host OS as Ubuntu or Mageia start running a
> > >>very fast and responsive OS like OM Lx 2014 in guest mode, it's
> > >>absolutely impossible for the virtualized OS to show its real capacity
> > >>and responsiveness as this behaviour is depending for the most part from
> > >>the Host inner capacity...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>bye, NicCo
> > >>-

> 


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