Dnia poniedziałek, 8 września 2014 19:13:21 Raphaël Jadot pisze: > Well, it starts to become kinda offtopic now, sorry :) > > I don't disagree about what you tell about urpmi and the perl hell, > libzypp is fast, well known for its amazing dependancies with multiple > sources management, "vendor change" features, intelligent resolver etc. > > The fact is that we need to have the community more involved, and we need > their agreement (also by explaining why and how we will not become a simple > OpenSuse rebrand). > Sure we have more involvement from communit, but this does not mean that community will say that, "hey let's get back to kernel-2.4.x" it was super 1337 and community want to have it in OMV as a default kernel.
That was also a point of 2014.0 release, to distinguish from ROSA, but still some people cries, why we removed rosa-this, rosa-that software. > My opinion is that we should have significative time to decide. Ok i understand, that series of TC meeting and technical discussion to start to work on replacing urpmi by zypper is not enough. > We can't > only rely on the argument that something is too old for replacing it. Many > things need to be taken in account. Will we stick to opensuse development > cycle? Or make a fork? Will we use yast? Adapt a UI? What human resources > will it mean if suddenly the main cooker developers become president of > their respective countries and have no more time for openmandriva? Why not > yum, smart...? > This was discussed few times on TC meeting why zypper is better that dead smart, and soon to be dead yum (overtaked by dnf). > we should make a public page where we put all solutions we know in > competition, with pragmatic pros and cons for each. This got done. See project.openmandriva.org > We should also ask > community to make proposals so we don't miss a good idea by focusing only > on one solution. Then maybe we could invite community to install an > OpenSuse (or other) and test the package manager and give feedback. > There were call for ideas after 2014.0 got released into the wild. Community have spoken, and all ideas were discussed by TC, some got rejected, some accepted and some alredy implemented. > 2014-09-08 18:38 GMT+02:00 Tomasz Paweł Gajc <[email protected]>: > > Urpmi is a dead end, it is not even properly upstreamed. We can not rely > > on such assumption that someone may feel not familiar with new tool here, > > and stop progress and stil live in early 2000. > > > > > > Wysłano z BlackBerry® w Orange > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Raphaël Jadot <[email protected]> > > Sender: "OM-Cooker" <[email protected]>Date: Mon, 8 > > Sep 2014 16:27:51 > > To: Cooker OpenMandriva<[email protected]> > > Reply-To: Cooker OpenMandriva <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [OM Cooker] Semester of code > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OM-Cooker mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://ml.openmandriva.org/listinfo.cgi/om-cooker-openmandriva.org > > _______________________________________________ > > OM-Cooker mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://ml.openmandriva.org/listinfo.cgi/om-cooker-openmandriva.org -- Cheers TPG _______________________________________________ OM-Cooker mailing list [email protected] http://ml.openmandriva.org/listinfo.cgi/om-cooker-openmandriva.org
