Flash player is getting abandoned as HTML5 will be this year forced
everywhere. So IMHO this is not an issue for now.

Speaking of graphics drivers, I'm running nouveau and it works fine. Too
bad that users who have latest devices from nVidia may not be fully
satisfied because nouveau development is few steps back after nVidia closed
source drivers.Second to get vdpau working with nouveau a firmware blob is
still needed with open sourced drivers.  I assume that in case of ATI/AMD
drivers this is little bit worse.

Anyways our default iso does not contain any closed software except
kernel-firmware (WiFi support, gdy cards etc) and some blobs in kernel.

Any other closed source software can be installed easily by running drakx
tools.

I was thinking to get a special udev rules to automatically install missing
closed source software, to get better user experience.

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2 lut 2015 23:26 "Ben Bullard" <[email protected]> napisał(a):

>  +3
>
> I think this is most common.
>
> Ben Bullard
> ben79
> --------------------
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>
>
> On 02/02/2015 12:22 PM, Davide Garatti wrote:
>
> +2
>
>
>
> Personally, do not know anyone who uses Linux OpenMandriva Lx or other
> distributions (usually Fedora, OpenSuse, Ubuntu, Centos etc) that do not
> immediately install nvidia drivers, codecs and flashplayer ...... maybe
> I'll be a strange case .... ..but these are my experiences.
> Not I would jump on a street with no exits.
>
> Ciao
>
> --
>
> Davide_01
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>
> In data sabato 31 gennaio 2015 16:17:40, symbianflo ha scritto:
>
> > +1
>
> > Nowadays users are looking for everything out-of-the-box
>
> > OMA might benefit of some donations from FSF, but
>
> > without users that install and use OMA , means that
>
> > openmandriva will be "another iso designed for vbox".
>
> > Now if the amount of those FSF donation would
>
> > be enough to keep OMA going , then you have my vote,
>
> > otherwise we are risking those few users that still
>
> > use omv.
>
> > Some numbers what out-of-the-box distro should be:
>
> > Hit on top: 1- multimedia ( mainly closed or plf)
>
> > 2 stability/usability ( funny only on second place...)
>
> > 3 networking and file sharing
>
> > 4 games, and playing experience
>
> > 5 look and feel
>
> > 6 enduser support and updates
>
> >
>
> > Il 31/01/2015 13:56, Jean-Claude Vanier ha scritto:
>
> > > Hi Maik,
>
> > > though I haven't a very strong opinion on this matter, "free" vs
>
> > > "usable" when "usable" implies non free softwares, I think this
>
> > > question should be seriously discussed between us. I mean, we should
>
> > > have a clear public position on this point.
>
> > >
>
> > > jcl
>
> > >
>
> > > 2015-01-30 6:54 GMT+01:00 Maik Wagner <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]>:
>
> > >> Hello Kate,
>
> > >>
>
> > >> On 01/28/2015 07:48 PM, Kate Lebedeff wrote:
>
> > >>> This is a very good thing to do
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> Do we qualify fully?
>
> > >>
>
> > >> I must say that I had a second thought about aligning our
> distribution to
>
> > >> the Free Software Foundation guidelines. As far as the kernel is
>
> > >> concerned
>
> > >> we would need to take out binary firmware blobs which would in that we
>
> > >> need
>
> > >> to change the kernel and commit ourselves in using things like
> "gnash" as
>
> > >> an alternative to Flash Player.
>
> > >>
>
> > >> https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines
>
> > >>
>
> > >> In that respect I have taken a step back from this as people probably
>
> > >> want
>
> > >> the best desktop experience. As we did a survey recently we might
> want to
>
> > >> include questions about "I prefer to have free software." vs. "I
> prefer
>
> > >> to
>
> > >> have the best possible experience in installing proprietary software."
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Have a good day,
>
> > >>
>
> > >>
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Maik
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