On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Looking at the dev work that remains, I think we need to move forward >> >> on this with deliberate speed. This impacts both the branding on our >> >> 3.4 release, as well as the branding on our web sites, both of which >> >> are making strong progress. >> >> >> >> I think there are two main elements we need to decide on: >> >> >> >> 1) Product name: Apache OpenOffice, Apache OpenOffice.org or something >> >> else >> >> >> >> 2) Logo, for use on website, product splash screen etc. >> >> >> >> I propose that we discuss these topics on the ooo-marketing for two >> >> weeks, until November 14th. If there is consensus on these questions >> >> then we will go forward to implement that consensus. But if there is >> >> no consensus by the 14th, then we will have a 72-hour vote of PPMC >> >> members to decide among the alternatives. >> >> >> >> Of course, it is better to reach consensus on such questions, but a >> >> product name is not optional, so we need to resolve these questions >> >> one way or another. >> >> >> >> Any objections to this general approach and time frame? >> >> >> >> -Rob >> >> >> > >> > My largest issue is basically the way is being handled this voting, >> usually >> > it seems that is not as easily traceable as a poll. Mailing list can >> easily >> > bury vote by just having chatty people or flamewars. >> > I rather see the forum as a more dynamic way to reach consensus like they >> > do with a voting poll separate from the overall discussion why is a good >> > idea or not. Also I would miss the ability to change the voting in case >> the >> > voter realize that he has a change of heart. I do like the timeline. >> > So I would propose a decision making framework to account vote, change >> > votes, and easily browse/review overall group decisions. >> > >> >> The way an Apache project typically does this is via separate >> [DISCUSSION] and [VOTE] threads. So it would be clear which is which. >> And in the [VOTE] thread we would only count the last vote a person >> makes, so they can change their vote freely. >> >> But I would only have a [VOTE] if after 2 weeks there was still no >> consensus. >> >> Would that work? >> > > not really >
Could you explain your concern again? Or make a counter-proposal? -Rob > >> >> -Rob >> >> > -- >> > *Alexandro Colorado* >> > *OpenOffice.org* Español >> > http://es.openoffice.org >> > fingerprint: E62B CF77 1BEA 0749 C0B8 50B9 3DE6 A84A 68D0 72E6 >> > >> > > > > -- > *Alexandro Colorado* > *OpenOffice.org* Español > http://es.openoffice.org > fingerprint: E62B CF77 1BEA 0749 C0B8 50B9 3DE6 A84A 68D0 72E6 >
