On Monday 05 June 2006 14:43, Hamish Marson wrote:
> Zan Lynx wrote:
>
> Hmm.. I wouldn't say impossible... If the signing is avilable on the
> same machine, then it just needs a backdoor (e.g. a handy security
> hole) access to the process that does the signing to enable the
> malicious code to be signed & away they go...

You boot the machine from a known-clean boot-cd with the key on it, sign 
all the software, and reboot. Probably not a good solution for personal 
computers, but I can see it happening in a company. On a PC, keep the 
key on a read-only USB stick.

> > Or say you have confidential legal documents.  With DRM they can be
> >  restricted to display by authorized document viewing software,
> > only on authorized computer hardware, or on hardware with an
> > authorized personal key loaded.
>
> Hmm... Sounds like a rewording of the RIAA et al's excuses for DRM to
> me...

How about this one then. You want to order a video card from the 
Traversal Technology web shop. For that, the shop needs your address, 
so they can send you the package, and your credit card number, so they 
can charge you. Of course, you don't want them to pass on that 
information to anyone else. So, you encrypt it, and require them to use 
software that won't let them do anything with the information but send 
you a package and charge you.

Of course, they would have to agree to use such software, and it would 
have to be open source so that you could check whether it works 
correctly.

> > The US DoD has been using these sorts of limits on classified
> > information stored in TCSEC Class B secure computer systems for a
> > long time now.
>
> They've never heard of cameras then? Full circle... Spying would be
> reduced to finding the doc & photographing them with a 007 style
> mini-camera again...

Well, obviously they'd have procedures in place to deal with that, too. 
But there's not much of a point in checking for cameras if people can 
simply email the secret documents out now is there? You need to plug 
_all_ the holes. And that includes any digital ones.

Lourens

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