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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick McNamara
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:46 PM
To: Timothy Miller; [email protected]; Patrick McNamara
Subject: Re: [Open-graphics] Discussions with Richard Stallman

> Oh, and should Patrick McNamara and the OHF follow suit?  Asking him
> to change OHF to something else is about like asking Traversal to
> change its name.  Some things are much harder to do, so this is
> entirely up to him and his board members.  But I just thought I'd
> mention the idea.

That would be somewhat difficult right now as it would require filing and
amendment to the articles of incorporation which are currently working their
way through the cog that is the state goverment of Texas.  

I certainly understand RMS' postion on "free" vs "open" and generally agree
with him, though I differ on some points.  I am a bit more pragmatic with an
undertone of idealism.  Still, I have concerns about using the word "free"
in the title of a hardware project or the Foundation.  While it does pose
less of an issue than "open" in terms of confusing meanings, the big
confusion it does have, between free beer and free speech, causes
significant issue with hardware.  In the general sense we will never be
producing free as in beer hardware.  This means that any packaging or press
materials that reference "free hardware" will cause serious problems in the
general problem.  In the lawsuit happy US, I can certain see someone saying
"It said there was free hardware in the box.  I didn't get anything free.
I'll sue for false advertising!"  So yes that may be an exageration, but
only a little.

Patrick M



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I would also concur with Patrick on this issue 100%.  The term "Free"
implies entirely TOO much that would cause confusions or be misleading with
hardware.  

As with anything in the English language if we are careful to "define" what
our "Terms" mean as simply as possible we should minimize any confusion down
the road.  I'd say stick with Open.  OHF, OGP etc..

Certainly don't mind working with FSF, and Stallman himself.  I don't
however thing the advantages of the term "Free" help any at all against the
existing term "Open".

Jonathan Smith

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