The famous saying "but will it play crysis?", might have to change to "but
will it play Left 4 Dead 2?" :) Gabe and company are doing some cool
things. An open SoC with decent graphics might do quite well. NanoITX
perhaps?


On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Gregory Carter <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, I think you are right as it would be more of a Rube Goldberg machine
> than a graphics card.
>
> :-)
>
> Incidentally, demand for graphics in general is quietly making large steps
> on Linux:
>
> http://steamcommunity.com/**games/221410/announcements/**
> detail/1749910796493493022<http://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1749910796493493022>
>
> So demand is continuing to go up, not down for decent graphics on a LINUX
> box in the 3D fully accelerated category that doesn't suck.
>
> -gc
>
>
>
> On 12/07/2012 03:04 PM, "Ing. Daniel Rozsnyó" wrote:
>
>> These integrated GPU's are not available without the processor. And you
>> will have very hard time, to find one which has PCIe (and that would be
>> pcie host not device).
>>
>> Putting a SoC on a PCIe card has no real benefit. You are probably
>> trapped in a recursion - and if you get again to the surface, you has to
>> acknowledge that you can do your work on the SoC itself. No need to put it
>> into another system.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 12/07/2012 10:00 PM, Gregory Carter wrote:
>>
>>> Well, what about the Mali GPU work being done right now?
>>>
>>> http://www.malideveloper.com/**developer-resources/drivers/**
>>> open-source-mali-gpus-linux-**kernel-device-drivers.php<http://www.malideveloper.com/developer-resources/drivers/open-source-mali-gpus-linux-kernel-device-drivers.php>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seems like the source code is available, and at least one Linux desktop
>>> at the moment is up on OpenGL ES, which might be a little more realistic
>>> than a Ivy Bridge setup on a card.  (Which people have written to me
>>> that that is not really practical.  Although they haven't spelled out
>>> the specifics.  :-)
>>>
>>> OpenGL ES is supported by KDE 4.10 right now, or at least I think Kwin
>>> builds and runs fine on it completely accelerated last time I looked.
>>>
>>> Maybe a little Mali coprocessor to start would be a better idea to
>>> getting a card out quickly to get a revenue stream for funding a open
>>> architecture.
>>>
>>> -gc
>>>
>>> On 12/07/2012 02:06 AM, Dieter BSD wrote:
>>>
>>>> So how much interest is there in my idea of a graphics card
>>>>>> with a framebuffer and a socket to optionally add the future gpu?
>>>>>> Can we build one with existing off the shelf parts (that have
>>>>>> datasheets)?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I am interested, but my target is to pack it into a mini-pcie embedded
>>>>> design, however I can live with the fact that it can be prototyped as a
>>>>> standard PCIe card.
>>>>>
>>>> They make adapters to plug mini-pcie cards into PCIe slots.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Is a mini-pcie card large enough?
>>>>
>>>> 2) If we go mini-pcie, how do we handle the connections to the displays?
>>>>
>>>> One idea I had awhile back was rather than have the OGP GPU chip
>>>> plug into a socket, put it on a mini-pcie card and then plug that
>>>> into the PCIe framebuffer card.
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