I really like this Steam idea. If we could get them to participate in the project, that would be phenomenal. Should we wait until I've had time to code the reference stream processor?
Also, Jeri's accomplishments are certainly impressive. But doing our own fabrication is billions of dollars outside of the scope of this project, You may be able to make a single IC in your garage with a few dozen transistors on it, but that's a far cry from mass production with high yield of chips with hundreds of thousands of transistors at 45nm or smaller geometry. There's plenty Steam can do in terms of influencing design choices, work on the simulator, work on the RTL, verification, compilers, and they can certainly position themselves as a priority (or even exclusive) licensee of the design for fabrication. (I'm even willing to consider the idea of having them become the part or even principle owner, as long as our FOSS and research goals are satisfied. The contract would have to be bullet-proof, though.) I'm working hard on my end to get manpower and serious momentum going on my end. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Troy Benjegerdes <[email protected]> wrote: > Don't start with Gabe. > > Start with Jeri Ellsworth. http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeriellsworth > Her video of removing oxide from wafers in a garage is what convinced > me I'll be able fab silicon on my farm. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdcKwOo7dmM > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 09:43:11PM -0800, gary sheppard wrote: > > The first thing is... Gabe will need to hear about the "rockstars" who > will > > roll up their sleeves and drive the project forward. He is a businessman, > > and if a genuine opportunity presents itself I would think he could be > > convinced to invest. > > > > I have been watching Nvidia // ATI // Intel and trying to wrap my head > > around where they are headed. > > > > -- Intel: Knights Corner started out as an x86 core video card / HPC > > Compute accelerator. It later morphed into more of a HPC accelerator, and > > if what intel claims is true then the HPC crowd are going to crow loudly > > and Nvidia / ATI are going to be crying about CUDA / OpenCL and HPC being > > made obsolete. "If you program for x86, you can program for our Knights > > corner HPC Compute!" ... that is convincing. > > > > I mention that because both ATI and Nvidia depend on these sales to help > > round out profits. > > > > Another thing to consider is Bitcoin and Folding @ Home == > > http://www.hardocp.com/news/2012/12/07/fold_for_horde_win_cash_prizes > > The easier we make it for "science to happen" by accelerating the compute > > models the better off we are. > > > > For a while when the Sony Playstation 3 was still Linux friendly the > United > > States Airforce used it to make a fairly nice cluster. Cell anyone? > > > > Just ideas, and thoughts. > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Dieter BSD <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Gregory writes: > > > > Maybe someone should write a letter to Steam and say: > > > > > > > > Dear Steam, > > > > > > > > Given how Microsoft is trying to screw everyone this Xmas with > > > > Windows 8, and seeing you had such bad luck with the Video blobs from > > > > vendors, but good luck with the open source stuff...really only one > > > > thing is missing. > > > > > > > > An open source card, which, you have a vested interested in helping > fund > > > > or develop with the community. > > > > > > > > If you please put on your Steam page a percentage of how much of the > > > > profits for the Linux games goes to a Chip Foundry fund so you and > the > > > > community can get Graphics hardware with 3D capabilities that are > > > > decent, we would wuv you. > > > > > > Not a bad idea. All we need is someone with ueber diplomatic skills. > > > Which isn't me, unfortunately. Anyone have ueber diplomatic skills? > > > Anyone happen to be friends with people from Steam? > > > > > > Here's my feeble attempt: > > > > > > Dear Steam, > > > > > > We at the Open Graphics Project have read about the trouble Steam > > > has been having with binary blobs, and your relative success with > FLOSS. > > > We are working on developing a graphics card that is completely > documented, > > > so that FLOSS OSes can have proper device drivers that work correctly. > > > > > > As you are doubtlessly aware, the lack of a properly documented > > > graphics card is a major sore point in the FLOSS community. Sponsorship > > > of a "Steam Powered" graphics card would generate an enormous amount of > > > goodwill. We look forward to discussing the possibility of working > together > > > with you at your convenience. > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > Ok, perhaps some diplomatic wizard can fix that up. > > > > > > What do we need to do to prepare, in case they are actually interested? > > > Will they want a demo of the OGD1? 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